Talk:Joanna Hausmann

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''"Her brother is Michel Hausmann, a Venezuelan theater director who endured a case of discrimination after an orchestra cancelled their collaboration with his production of Fiddler on the Roof, citing their concern for government funding under Hugo Chávez, who had been inciting antisemitism.[3][4]" ''

As noted in several edit summaries, the preceding line is a strangely long-winded description of an incident unrelated to the early life of Joanna Hausmann that contains subjective language. No evidence has been submitted as to why this line should remain as it is.

Bigwigge (talk) 12:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Her father has been persecuted by the government and her uncle is a political prisoner. It's relevant to include that they are not the only relatives that have been affected, although the wording could be improved. --Jamez42 (talk) 12:37, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The line is inconsistent with the rightfully short and neutral descriptions of the rest of the family members, who all have deeper histories with the government, and reads like an attempt to use a relatively minor incident to shoehorn a several-degrees-removed accusation of antisemitism on a political figure in a place it doesn't belong. Considering the controversy surrounding the current Venezuelan political situation, more impartiality and conciseness is called for. Bigwigge (talk) 17:54, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * I trimmed a little bit his description, I hope it can help with neutrality. --Jamez42 (talk) 08:37, 2 May 2019 (UTC)


 * ...and her uncle is a political prisoner... - is he? According to the CPJ (who campaigned for his release), he was released to house arrest after eight months (note that the tweet in the article’s ref is dated 2016), and has since “published five books and continues to post on social media platforms including Twitter”. 23.115.162.60 (talk) 12:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


 * "Page not found". Also, the fact that he was released does not meet he was not a political prisoner or at the very least that his arrest was arbitrary. --Jamez42 (talk) 12:25, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Fixed links. It sounds like he was arrested for money laundering, but they claim he was framed and that the arrest was to prevent his reporting (then released for health reasons and permitted to continue the reporting his arrest was purportedly intended to thwart). In any case, this is the problem — trying to shoehorn an accurate BLP-safe reference to an uncle is going to be difficult and confusing to readers at best, or (as it stands now) stand as an obvious jab at an unrelated third party. 23.115.162.60 (talk) 14:23, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The very CPJ link provided explains that the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention determined concluded that his detention was arbitrary, and the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights issued precautionary measures to him for his health problems. Besides, Braulio was detained just the day after there was a cacerolazo against Maduro and Jatar published videos about the protest. Because of the conditions of his arrest, it seems completely suitable that it's included. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * “it seems completely suitable that it's included.” — definitely: it would be insane not to include it in his own article, where suitable context can be given. I’d also note that you keep talking about “arbitrary detention”, while the article says “political prisoner”, which is not the same thing. If instead of “political prisoner” it said “arbitrarily placed on house arrest with uncensored internet access, over disputed allegations of money laundering” (even putting aside that the purported “real reason” for the arrest was exactly the promotion of extraconstitutional regime change that he is permitted to continue up to the present), that would be less misleading, but it would make the fact that it is out-of-place even more apparent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.115.162.60 (talk • contribs)


 * I do not "keep talking" only about his arbitrary detention, I also pointed out the political motivations. I also forgot to mention that he's considered as a political prisoner by the NGO Foro Penal, whose list of political prisoners is ratified by the Organization of American States. Most important of all, Jatar is Hausmann's uncle, and there shouldn't be a problem speaking about her family in the article. --Jamez42 (talk) 18:11, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

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