Talk:Jody Weiner

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Bizgal 21:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC) I am the author of the Jody Weiner page. I do not believe it should be deleted. I've added additional external references to The California Writer's club Berkeley Branch, links to his books on amazon.com, the Publisher's web site that shows Jody Weiner is a contributor to "Hot Koko & the fetching cat" in the book Kinship With Animals.

Thank you, Bizgal 21:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)Bizgal


 * But we need some independent, reliable sources like book reviews or interviews in a newspaper, magazine or something similar. The sources you have are just links to his book's web site, his publisher, or a club he belongs to (that link is broken, by the way). We need evidence that someone who isn't directly connected to him finds him notable. Realkyhick 21:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've cleaned this up a bit, and added some links and sources. It is clear that this is a legit published author, who has gotten soem notice, but nothing like bestseller status. Whether thsi subject is notabel enough might be debated. There don't seem to be more useful sources findable via a google search. If anyone knows of print sources, citatiosn would be very useful. DES (talk) 17:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * A Google search comes up pretty empty, at least for relevant results. Notability is still very much in question. I'll give this a few more days, but if we can't come up with some more, it may be time for an AfD nomination. It's certainly beyond speedy-delete criteria at this point, though. Realkyhick 16:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Weiner is a writer, novelist and was also Koko the Gorilla's lawyer. Weiner writes about when Koko the Gorilla was sued for sexual harassment. This is still a work in progress. I am still working on cleaning this up and proving notability. Thank you. Bizgal 00:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
It might be of interest that Weiner is the husband of artist Nancy Calef (source: the dedication to Weiner's book Prisoners of Truth), another article that Bizgal has created that does not evidence notability. Possible COI?--Ethicoaestheticist 20:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I, like you, learned that Weiner's work is related to Calef's. I first learned of Weiner's work about Koko the Gorilla and then learned he wrote a novel, Prisoners of Truth. I learned of Calef's work through Weiner's novel. Since when is marriage a COI in the creative world? I am still working on additional references and citations, and I appreciate your guidance. Thank you. Bizgal 21:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)