Talk:Joe Garagiola

good article
Wow, happy to see this article blossom after I started it oh so long ago... --Locarno 23:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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1976 Presidential Election
Garagiola campaigned for President Gerald Ford during the 1976 presidential campaign with a series of lengthy commercials touting Ford's candidacy. Today, we might call these "infomercials." As of December 3rd, 2010, the article says this about those commercials: "the ads largely served only to reinforce the perception that Ford was inept and inarticulate, and were considered by most to have negatively affected the Ford campaign." No supporting evidence is provided to back the claim that these ads hurt the Ford campaign. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't -- but let's see some evidence either way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.142.97 (talk) 03:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Age
Today, 26 February 2012, I saw that the age of Joe Garagiola, Sr. is given as 85 years despite the fact that his 86th birthday was earlier this month. I did not find a way to change the age, only the birthday. Therefore I assume that there is some software code which calculates the age automatically. If this is the case, it needs to be fixed, maybe somebody else here knows how do do so. Stefankirchner (talk) 20:07, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Peanuts
How is it possible not to talk about him being Charlie Brown's favorite player? Thmazing (talk) 21:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Can't post URL on Facebook
Can't post this page's URL on a Facebook timeline because it has a period at the end of it. ("_Sr.") A period at the end of a URL is not standard. 50.54.231.229 (talk) 15:41, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Death
News just in, Joe has passed away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.55.227 (talk) 19:24, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Got it, and thanks for the notification. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:29, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

"Baseball career" section
In second to last paragraph, there's a story about Stan Musial asking Joe, "When are you gonna quit."

The lead-in sentence to the story says that Joe told the story. If so, the story should be in FIRST PERSON narration, NOT third person.

If the quote (and third person narration) is correct, then actual attribution needs to be found.2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 20:03, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Plagiarism ?
While researching online as to exactly "why" Joe Garagiola retired from baseball in 1954 (never found out), I came across the "World eBook Library" article on Mr. Garagiola. While reading it, I got the very uncomfortable feeling that I had read this before - - - exactly word for word. And it turns out, I was correct. Entire sections of both the Wikipedia and the World eBook Library articles are EXACTLY THE SAME WORD FOR WORD ! ! ! And NEITHER are cited or mentioned anywhere as sources in the other's entry/article. Even the story whose point of narration I previously questioned (see "'Baseball career' section"), is identical word for word. Someone needs to check out this possible plagiarism and make what ever changes are necessary.2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 20:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Since this article lists specific sources, and the World eBook Library does not, but says that its "content is assembled from numerous open-source content providers" -- including Wikimedia Foundation -- and since the eBook article is organized in the typical WP format, my guess is that the eBook Library copied its content from WP, not vice versa.  If so, I don't know that there is anything that can (or should) be done about it.  Diannaa has quite a lot of experience with plagiarism issues, so I'm pinging her for an opinion.  DoctorJoeE  review transgressions/ talk to me!  22:25, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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Early life
Born in an Italian-American neighborhood "known at the time as Dago Hill." Forty years later, when I lived in the area, it was still called that, and perhaps even today. But not by Italians, nor by polite non-Italians, as it's an ethnic slur. They call it simply "The Hill." 2602:301:7744:41F0:D0F8:7B17:1352:362 (talk) 06:51, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 12 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus (talk) 02:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Joe Garagiola Sr. → Joe Garagiola – WP:COMMONNAME; The "Sr." isn't necessary as a disambiguator because Joe is FAR better known than his son Joe Jr. (who already has the distinction near the end to clear up confusion). Also nobody called/calls him Joe Garagiola Sr. - unlike (for example) Sandy Alomar Jr. and Sr. where both were well-known players. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:46, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Support The father is the clear primary topic based on page views,|Joe_Garagiola_Jr. even when his son is still alive.—Bagumba (talk) 16:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, undoing an undiscussed move from 2016. 162 etc. (talk) 16:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support father is the obvious primary topic. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 17:50, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support, per common name and above. Should have been uncontroversially reversed after the undiscussed 2016 move. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and above comments. This will just reverse a redirect. Station1 (talk) 01:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose simply because I'm used to seeing him disambiguated as "Sr." off Wikipedia as a result of his years of broadcasting and was surprised to see this move review initiated as a result, even though the sources will obviously lean more towards just using the proposed move because that wasn't exactly his birth name. (The fact nobody called him Sr. is incorrect, though it's true from his ball playing days.) SportingFlyer  T · C  13:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I personally cannot find any newspaper or official baseball sites that call him "Joe Garagiola Sr." - universally, it seems he is referred to simply as "Joe Garagiola". I thought there must have been a good reason for the undiscussed name change but after researching, I couldn't find any article, website, etc. calling him "Joe Sr." - even his obituraries called him "Joe Garagiola" in the headlines. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC)