Talk:Joe McGinnity

"Routinely" and "numerous" are subjective and not accurate
The lede indicates McGinnity tossed both ends of doubleheaders "routinely." Then under the Major League Baseball section, it's claimed he did so "on numerous occasions". True, he performed this feat three times in a single month in 1903, winning all six games, but nothing about that was routine. As for "numerous", he "only" performed the iron-man stint two other times in his career, both in an earlier year.

According to [//books.google.com/books?id=IJrTTNlrXyIC&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=last+pitcher+ironman+stint+double-header&source=bl&ots=ttNZu4pVqg&sig=fwpoWjpsQ7l35lpzQFzx5EM4D5Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAWoVChMIhciH3faRxgIVTg2SCh2pLAB9#v=onepage&q=last%20pitcher%20ironman%20stint%20double-header&f=false Doubleheaders: A Major League History], pages 76-77, McGinnity's historic three doubleheader string was in August 1903, as the article indicates. The first was August 1 against Boston; the second, on August 8 against Brooklyn; and the third, on August 31 against Philadelphia. However, the only other attempts in his career were for Baltimore in 1901, when he had split decisions against Milwaukee on September 3 and Philadelphia on September 12.

Calling these five events "numerous" is a stretch, while "routine" approaches gross exaggeration. In any case, the characterizations are subjective. I'd suggest trying to be more specific, rather than generalize, for example, by stating that "McGinnity pitched both ends of a doubleheader five times in his career, winning eight of the 10 games, including six victories in the same month." I also think all five games and their dates and scores are worthy of mention. To put this in perspective, it should be mentioned somewhere that no other pitcher attempted the "iron man stint" in the sport's history, not one (nor is it ever likely to happen again). Therefore, why not break this out as a subsection, since most people are likely to look up McGinty solely for his "iron man" performances? Allreet (talk) 16:23, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Correction: I did some more research and turned up numerous instances where pitchers either completed or attempted the iron man stint: https://prestonjg.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/a-thorough-account-of-pitchers-who-have-started-both-games-of-a-doubleheader-in-the-major-leagues/. Gross sloppiness on my part. Allreet (talk) 17:23, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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