Talk:Joe Thornton

Born and raised in St Thomas
He was born and raised in St. Thomas, ask anyone. Look for your selves.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shmoked (talk • contribs) 04:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Birthplace
Was he born in London, or St. Thomas? Adam Bishop 08:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

He was born in London, Ontario. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.103.126.105 (talk) 22:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

No Sorry. He was born in St. Thomas. Maybe if you saw all the signs when entering the city you would understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.180.52 (talk) 01:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, if you actually drive to St. Thomas (where I'm from) you'll see signs everywhere! Ask anybody in St. Thomas for your self. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiostivieslug (talk • contribs) 06:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * BORN in London, LIVED in Lynhurst. -- Natural  R X 05:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Having grown up in Aylmer, Ontario (a few miles east of St. Thomas) and being only a year younger than Joe Thornton (I even remember the man being an absolute goof in high school) I can vouch that Joe Thornton was born, AND raised in St. Thomas (Lynhurst was just a SMALL part of his life). —Preceding unsigned comment added by HardRetro (talk • contribs) 20:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

POV issues
There are some very biased statements on this page.

Specifically: "He is known for being one of the league's best young centers and power forwards of limitless potential. Nicknamed "Jumbo Joe" for his large-body frame, Thornton is well-recognized for his passing prowess, incredible on-ice vision, and ability to make silky-smooth plays."

Opinions of him were not nearly so glowing in Boston. Admittedly, he has talent. But he was considered by many to be a disappointment, never really delivering on the promised potential (drafted first overall). [there are also those who believe the guy is a huge douche bag, but that's neither here nor there..]

Naturally, there is some bias to those views as well. Also granted, he has had a lot more success in San Jose. Not knowing wiki's guidelines on things like this, it seems that both sides of the coin should be acknowledged, or the article should be a lot more neutral than it currently is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.241.217.15 (talk • contribs)
 * That can be taken care of. I'll probably get to it soon. –NeoChaosX [ talk | contribs ] 23:29, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Let us not all forget that he was after all named the MVP of the league. So basically it is saying he is the best in the league. I think, that based on the quotes used, then yes, the article has some bias.

I paticularily enjoy his assualt charges that tend to always get deleted...this is no biased article at all ;)

I would have thought his assault charges would be something to be proud of, his bother certainly is. Epocalypse2 (talk) 13:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There certainly do appear to be some POV issues. Additionally, as a Biography, this article appears to be horribly under-referenced. Added a bunch of areas where facts could be cited, along with the and  tags. Going to try to come back and clean this up myself. EDIT: By the way, I want to clarify that by no means do I think that this page should be removed (as certainly Joe is a notable player) and I'm also not disputing any of the facts listed, as I've been a season ticket holder with the Sharks since '02(How far have we come?). Still, for someone coming to this page as a reference, they should have the warnings about NPOV and References. Gnowor (talk) 15:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

2009-10 paragraph
That paragraph is overly bloated & sloppily done. Anybody care to simplfy it? GoodDay (talk) 22:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I made an edit or two before I noticed people were already talking about the problems I had with the article here. Even as a huge Joe Thornton fan, it's obvious that the whole 2009 season description is bloated and I could barely stand reading the entire wall of text.

I'm new to editing and didn't think it would be proper for me to wade through and simplify it to reach some sort of unbiased standard, so I guess I'll leave it to someone else. Darryljnixon (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Playoff Failures
There is no mention on his poor play in the NHL playoffs. This is one of the defining characteristics of Joe Thornton, and there is no mention of it in this article. --XeF4 (talk) 03:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's mentioned a few times in both the Boston Bruins and the San Jose Sharks sections. --Onorem♠Dil 03:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it needs to be expanded a lot. --XeF4 (talk) 07:21, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * So long as whats expanded is not based on fan opinion (OR), and based on relibale sourcing (which seems to have already covered the issues) Id have no issue with expansion. Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

serious quality control
This paragraph: The Sharks once again came in to the 2010 playoffs with expectations as high as last season coming up against the 8 seeded Colorado. They were beat 2-1 by a last minute goal in game 1, in the first round and were down 1-0. Looking to avoid going down 2-0 the Sharks immediately answered back with a game 2 victory 6-5 thriller in overtime with Thornton getting 2 assists. Yet, that was only 1 of the 2 games where Joe got a point, but the Sharks eventually went on to defeat Colorado 4-2 with the help of Setoguchi and Pavelski. The Sharks were coming to face the defending Western Conference Champions, the Detroit Red Wings, where the Sharks were actually the underdog to the 5th seeded Detroit as the Sharks were defeated 3 times by Detroit in the season and only got one win on Detroit in a 2-2 game that went on to the shootout. Joe Thornton came in to this series with a complete breakout as he got an assist in games 1 and 4, a goal and assist in games 2, 3, and 5, as the Sharks eventually were to beat the favored Detroit 4-1 and advance to the Western Conference finals for the second time in franchise history, as the sharks were only 4 games away from the Stanley Cup. Chicago, however, neutralised Thornton, as well as Setoguchi, Pavelski, Heatley, and Marleau with their great defense as the Sharks were swept by the Blackhawks. The Sharks still ended up with arguably one of their greatest seasons in Franchise history. Seems to be completely opinionated and does not fit in with the rest of the article it should either be rewritten or totally deleted99.231.232.207 (talk) 23:09, 7 March 2011 (UTC) 03:53, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Back to back 90 assist seasons
He never got back to back 90 assist seasons. did nobody even look at his stats — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.227.126 (talk)
 * Looking at his stats...it appears that he did. Please note that in one of the 90 assist seasons, the total is split between 2 teams. --Onorem♠Dil 16:03, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

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