Talk:Joel Bernstein

OK, but I'm sorry a guy who photographed rock stars in the 1970s and 1980s, has had his photos used for covers of noteworthy albums commercially and artistically, has had his work published in noteworthy magazines with nation-wide and global circulation, has had retrospectives of his work at galleries in major American urban centers, and who is also a some time musician, archivist, and producer collaborating on work that is noteworthy, is not noteworthy himself? Sure, the current bio is just a stub, but that only means more work needs to be done. PJtP (talk) 01:32, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * For the most part Wikipedia lets the record speak for itself. Has he, over the years, received substantive coverage (not passing or incidental mentions) in multiple reliable sources independent of the man himself? If so, enough to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, then he qualifies for an article. If not, then we see that fact speaking for itself: he has not, at large, been found notable. Wikipedia is kind of a copycat in that regard: "has he been found notable elsewhere?" is the question, not "do we find him notable based on our own assessment of his life?" —Largo Plazo (talk) 02:12, 19 August 2014 (UTC)