Talk:Joel Osteen/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: StAnselm (talk · contribs) 03:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I have reviewed it and I am going to fail this article at this time. My reasoning is as follows.
 * 1) It is not yet stable, as there has been extensive editing in the last few days, including a dispute about content between User:TheShadowCrow, the nominator, and User:Grayfell.
 * 2) It contains a criticism section, which ought to be avoided per Criticism (which, to be sure, is only an essay). The point is, Osteen is indeed a controversial figure, and the article will need a whole lot more about his views and his impact (that is, why he is controversial) to meet GA standard. As it stands, the article says that Horton stated that "the problem with Osteen's message is that it makes religion about us instead of about God" and Osteen responded "by stating that he has specifically avoided preaching about money". Obviously, that doesn't address the criticism, and much more context is required.
 * 3) As it stands, the article is completely imbalanced, with the preaching style and the hoaxes section have disproportionately more coverage.
 * 4) The article needs some weightier secondary sources, and significant expansion based on those. I did a quick search, and found a book:
 * Richard Young, The Rise of Lakewood Church and Joel Osteen (2012)
 * a number of articles:
 * Jason Byassee, "Be happy: the health and wealth gospel," The Christian Century 122 (2005)
 * Leanna Fuller, "Perfectionism and Shame: Exploring the Connections," Journal of Pastoral Theology 18 (2008)
 * Helje Kringlebotn Sodal, "“Victor, not Victim”: Joel Osteen's Rhetoric of Hope," Journal of Contemporary Religion 25 (2010)
 * Christine Miller and Nathan Carlin, "Joel Osteen as cultural selfobject: meeting the needs of the group self and its individual members in and from the largest church in America," Pastoral Psychology 59 (2010)
 * and some book chapters:
 * Shayne Lee and Phillip Luke Sinitiere, "The Smiling Preacher: Joel Osteen and the Happy Church," in Holy Mavericks: Evangelical Innovators and the Spiritual Marketplace (2009)
 * David Gutterman, "Narrating Desire: The Gospel of Wealth in Christian America," in Politics and the Religious Imagination (2010)
 * Paul Louis Metzger, "The gospel of true prosperity: our best life in the triune God now and not yet," in Trinity and Election in Contemporary Theology (2011)
 * Phillip Luke Sinitiere, "Preaching the Good News Glad" in Global and Local Televangelism (2012)
 * At least some of these should be in an article like this if it is to reach GA standard. At present, the main aspects of the subject are not sufficiently addressed.
 * I hope all this helps. StAnselm (talk) 03:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)