Talk:Joelle James

Guest Appearances and Film/TV Sync Placements sections
Apart from being uncited, these sections appears to me as WP:FANCRUFT. I suggest removing them. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thank you for reaching out. I didn't know her birthday need to be cited. GlobalMachinery (talk) 19:57, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Like you, I write editsummaries, you can see them at . DOB:s are in no way mandatory in an an article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * DOB: I understand it's not mandatory, but people want to know DOB when they are researching a living person. No? GlobalMachinery (talk) 22:52, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Unless there's a WP:BLP-good source for it, they'll have to find it off-WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:59, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * These are all facts about her, isn't that why we are contributing? GlobalMachinery (talk) 20:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A WP-article on any topic is supposed to be a summary of independent WP:RS on that topic, all facts will not be included, there are aspects like WP:ABOUTSELF, WP:PROPORTION etc to consider too. No sources, no content, and in a WP:BLP sources need to be "extra good". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if you have visited other musician/artist pages, but almost every musician discussed on this platform has a "guest appearances" area below their released singles that discusses any collaborations with fellow *reputable* artists of merit that do not fall under the "featured singles" category. This is no different, and most I have seen are uncited as links/citations to articles discussing non-single collaborations (in depth) are rare. If you must remove the categories, do so. Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 18:58, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I checked the 5 first at Category:21st-century American singers and 2/5 had them, so at least some do. None had a "Film/TV Sync Placements" section, though. I'm not going to remove it, but for uncited stuff, WP:OTHERCONTENT is not a strong reason to keep it. Perhaps other editors will have opinions at some point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:11, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

DOB
@GlobalMachinery, why do you keep inserting the uncited WP:DOB? We are now into WP:EW. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Born
This may be me being WP:BLP-grumpy, but the source doesn't say born in Murrieta. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * You are (and it is getting a tad obsessive), because every source here details Murrieta as her hometown or calls her a "Murrieta Native" ... so here are two more that list she was born there. Please take your pick, and the one you choose will replace the previous source.
 * 1. https://www.iheart.com/artist/joelle-james-32058695/
 * 2. https://guitargirlmag.com/news/music-news/today-singer-songwriter-joelle-james-joins-ascaprealsounds-deconstructed-live-streaming-event/ Trainsskyscrapers (talk) 18:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I get nothing on that from your first link (all I get is the startpage), but the second is clear enough. I haven't had the time to get obsessive yet, I only noticed this article a few days ago. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Also, WP:VENDOR refs like Tidal, Spotify and Apple Music should be replaced with better refs if possible. Same goes for Roc Nation, if it's used for non-WP:ABOUTSELF stuff. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:54, 9 March 2023 (UTC)