Talk:Johanna Quaas

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What is the purpose of all the lang formatting around foreign cities and names? Where is the policy or guideline that says this should be included? I have been editing for 16 years and have never seen this before. GiantSnowman 13:14, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, and thanks for commenting. You are likely much more familiar with the MOS and other guidelines than I am, so if there is a reason they shouldn't be there, I'm open to hearing it. They were tedious to add. This was my first update to an article containing text with many non-English words, so I tried to understand what was expected and read about the template. Template:Lang explains the reasons succinctly, with a link to expansion in other areas of the MOS. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 13:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This is what I mean - I am unaware of any guidance/policy that says they should be used, and I have never seen them before. I suggest they are removed as per my edit. GiantSnowman 13:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * MOS:FOREIGNITALIC applies - it is italics for actual foreign words, not places or people's names like you have added. GiantSnowman 13:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Correct. They should not be italicized which is why the italics parameter was set to no. However, they should still be marked as foreign words. Do you need me to spell out the reasons here from the MOS? – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 13:36, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No, they should not. This is why in the example at MOS:FOREIGNITALIC 'Gustav I of Sweden' is not marked as 'foreign'. GiantSnowman 14:05, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

In that example, 'Gustav I of Sweden' is not a non-English word or term, but knäckebröd and messmör are. Here are just five examples from the Johanna Quaas article that are non-English words with non-English pronunciations making the use of Template:Lang appropriate. There are many more. I'm not sure what you are not understanding. Are you objecting to the use of the lang template? Do you not understand its rational? When you made that edit, you removed everything related to handling non-English words within the article. Everything that could enable the pronunciation of the words for the visually-impaired was removed when you removed the lang templates. Please explain other than, "I am unaware of any guidance/policy that says they should be used, and I have never seen them before." I have now pointed you to the link to the rationale of the Lang template. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 14:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Geißler
 * Hannchen
 * Turn-Oma
 * Hohenmölsen
 * Landes-Seniorenspiele
 * Please stop speaking to me like I am an idiot and/or child. If you accept that "'Gustav I of Sweden' is not a non-English word or term", why did you add the lang template to names (including Geißler) and places throughout this article? GiantSnowman 14:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , how about we take a break from this and come back to it another time? – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 14:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No, this needs resolving now. Please explain why names in 'Gustav I of Sweden' do not need a lang template but names in this article do... GiantSnowman 14:37, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * My suggestion is to restore my edit and then discuss which specific words you believe need the lang template. GiantSnowman 14:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)