Talk:John Beyer (lobbyist)

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 * There was an accusation that John Beyer likes the Black and White Minstrel Show. All I can find on the internet about this is MediawatchWatch highlighting that mediawatch-uk's anti-porn crusade is shared by the BNP - a group that mediawatch-uk emphatically distance themselves from. MediawatchWatch then suggests that Beyer should try and bring back TB&WMS, obliquely alleging that Beyer is racist (as the BNP is known to be racist). I've written to MediawatchWatch to clarify whether they have a source for this. In the meantime, I've removed the claim.
 * There was also the statement that John Beyer likes several other TV programs. As there's no source for this (and I've tried looking for one on the web), they have to go too.
 * Stuff about mediawatch-uk itself should be on the mediawatch-uk article - all that should be in this article is stuff that Beyer has personally done (whether in the capacity of mediawatch-uk directory/spokesperson or not). 195.173.23.111 09:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

According to MediawatchWatch, "John Beyer is recorded saying that he never saw the problem with the B&WMS, and that he found it "quite entertaining", on Channel 4's "Banned" series in March 2005." If someone can get ahold of the episode in question, this could be verified. 195.173.23.111 10:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia username
After a telephone conversation with Mr Beyer, I can confirm that User:John Beyer is indeed the subject of this article. --Scott Wilson 15:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd have enjoyed being a fly on the wall in that conversation...... Andrew nixon 15:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Secret Life of Brian
Whilst I admit that John Beyer did say that he did not have the resources to make a film lampooning Eric Idle, this statement: "which suggests that Eric Idle has made Life of Brian as a Lampoon of John Beyer. A more correct statement may have been to suggest he could not have made a film lampooning Eric Idle's Religious Beliefs, as it is these that the film's themes target." just reeks of POV. I happen to agree with you on this, but this is your interpretation of his comments and hence does not belong on Wikipedia. If you can find a review of the show where someone has said this, that might belong, but not in the way it is currently written. I will therefore remove the statement I have just quoted and leave in only what we know to be fact. Andrew nixon 22:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

fair enough. thx --Tim 22:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Stance on Life of Brian
Currently this section reads "John has also appeared on the show The Secret Life Of Brian, where his stance was to condone the subject of the film in question, Monty Python's Life of Brian, as blasphemous."

I assume this ought to read condemn rather than condone? Don't like to make the change myself as I haven't seen Secret Life... and I can't find a reference.

Savirr 09:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed it should read condemn... Andrew nixon


 * Thanks. Changed. Savirr 12:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Interference by the subject
Well it's very interesting to look at the history of this article, in which we see Mr Beyer manipulating its contents to make himself look better, revert wars over the inclusion of certain material, and now the gutting of the article in response to a request to the Wikimedia Foundation. It says quite a lot about these 'Mediawatch' types and their attitude to free expression. &mdash; Trilobite 18:07, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Please stop removing the info in the lead
Please stop removing the info in the lead. The info has nothing to with WP:BLP. I have reported you here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:173.109.97.127_reported_by_User:Vexorg_.28Result:_.29 Vexorg (talk) 01:55, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Successor?
So, who is Mr Beyer's successor as Director of Mediawatch? Calibanu (talk) 02:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Calibanu