Talk:John Collier (sociologist)

A Birds-eye View of Indian Policy Historic and Contemporary
14 pp mimeo pamphlet: "A Birds-eye View of Indian Policy Historic and Contemporary." "Submitted to the Sub-Committee of the Appropriation Committee of the House of Representatives, December 30, 1935, upon request of Representative Marion Zioncheck, of Washington." Cl, un, Feb. 1936, reporting enlarging of Yakima Indian cattle holdings.]

--89.61.189.115 13:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

John Collier Jr. Redirect Broken, Points to John Collier Sr.)
The redirect for John Collier Jr. is broken, it should not go to this man (John Collier (reformer)), who is effectively John Collier, Sr. The son (John Collier Jr., 1913-1992) is a famous photographer who apparently does not have an entry in Wikipedia, even though his is prominent enough to be linked under this entry's Family section to an off-site collection of his photography. Digitect (talk) 22:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

citation needed - where was he a sociology professor?
He's consistently referred to in book after book as an anthropologist, which is what he called himself. That's what his relatives say he is, as well. So where was this academic appointment as a sociology professor?--Levalley (talk) 07:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)LeValley

Indian view of John Collier's actions and policies currently unmentioned
This article seems to paint an all-rosy glow around John Collier, and it's true that historians praise more than condemn his actions ... but there has been significant Indian criticism of Collier that is currently unmentioned. My goal with the next sequence of edits I make is to deescribe the existence of alternate points of view about his policies in the spirit of NPOV. In an effort to not "go too far" I will also try to address the problem of lack of in-line citations for his many worthy achievements. I do wonder about the title "John Collier (reformer)" rather than something more like "John Collier (government official)" and wonder if others think "reformer" is value-neutral. QUALIFIER doesn't seem to address this. Comments and feedback are welcome! Sharp-shinned.hawk (talk) 14:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * John Collier (sociologist) currently seems to be unbalanced in a WP:BALASPS approach. See also WP:CRITICISM. --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Schonken needs to provide cites for major evaluations that are missing. See def of POV. Rjensen (talk) 07:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Wow, you two went to town on this one! Thanks for all the great additions!  I wish the page still linked to Alice Lee Jemison, who was a big opponent of Collier.  Also, removing her reinforces the problem of Gender bias on Wikipedia where "articles about women are much more likely to link to articles about men than vice versa" . In full disclosure, I did create the Alice Lee Jemison page, so I'm biased toward including it :)   But, her writings do provide good examples of how the Indians he antagonized expressed themselves.  Also it would be nice to have more sources by actual Native Americans like Jemison...?  Sharp-shinned.hawk (talk) 01:22, 9 May 2015 (UTC)