Talk:John Ena Jr.

What was John Ena's full name?
if you have any insight, it would be appreciated. We need to figure out exactly what Ena's name was before either of us (or anyone) creates a new article on him. I might suggest John Ena Jr., because his father was John Ena Sr. - See source Pg. 64 . The author lists his name in school as Jr., but perhaps because the overall mention of Ena in that source is about the father.

His name is listed as Jr. on some legal notices in the Hawaiian newspapers of the time. On the other hand, he is also listed in other legal notices without the Jr. In Lydecker's roster of the legislatures, the Jr. is not there.

I see you added Liwaikalaniopuu as his middle name on Lililuokalani's Privy Council. 1 Did you get that from Inter-Island Steam Navigation Company? Because that was added to that article with no source. 2 To confuse it even more, at Find A Grave, the image of his tombstone very clearly says his name was John Kauluhinano Ena.

Any ideas? — Maile (talk) 22:23, 25 December 2019 (UTC)


 * John Ena Jr. seem the best name to go with at the moment because of the discrepancy with his grave inscription, although I think John Ena should redirect to the son even if John Ena Sr.. As for the Liwai name, the younger Ena's full Hawaiian name, according to the "Hawaiian Genealogies", collections of genealogy published in Hawaiian language newspapers, was "Liwai Kalaniopuuikapali-o-Molilele-ma-wai-o-Ahukini-Kau-Hawaii". The history of the Liwai name was also carried by Ululani Lewai Baker . Either way John Kauluhinano Ena is worth mentioning. His mother was also granddaughter of Ululani according KE ALOHA AINA. KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:40, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Side of gravestone with mother's inscriptions which is not displayed on Find a Grave. KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:37, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Children
Does any other sources include anybody other than Mary Kapualahaole, Clara Keaolani, Thomas Foster Kaalokaiaokalani, Daisy Miliakalani, Ana Ululani, John Kalanikauhema, Daisy Kekuakapulani and Violet. The two Daisy's seem to be separate daughters. That just leaves one unaccounted child. KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems to be Mabel.KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:44, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Also any idea on the lifespan of his father? KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:32, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Mabel, Mary, Therese, Daisy, Anna, Thomas, John (erroneously listed in this source as John Jr). I noticed the duplicate Daisys, also.  However, in that era, parents sometimes gave a child the same name as another child who died in infancy.  For instance, see Richard Armstrong (Hawaii).  William Nevins Armstrong apparently was given the same name as his brother who died 2 days after the one who became Kalakaua's advisor was born. Possibly the Armstrong parents knew their infant was not going to survive. I've found no other info on John Sr., but I'm sure there must be sources out there about him, and possibly that whole generation of Chinese master sugar planters.. — Maile  (talk) 12:06, 29 December 2019 (UTC)