Talk:John Erskine, Earl of Mar (1675–1732)

Bobbin not Bobbing
Can't find references I think it is bobbin not bobbing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.49.163.48 (talk) 19:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

--2602:306:8382:9EA0:21E:C2FF:FEA6:1579 (talk) 22:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)== John Campbell ==

Mar's opponent at Sheriffmuir was John Campbell, the second Duke of Argyll, not his brother, Archbald. Rcpaterson 02:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

22nd Earl? I don't think so. The thing is, the accepted numbering of a peerage is taken from the creation which the current peer holds. Where the title had been forfeited and re-issued to others does not count. It is from the first holder of the latest creation that you commence the count. David Lauder 20:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * And why is he also known as "11th Earl of Mar"? Edward Waverley 15:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Some sources number from the 1st Lord Erskine, Robert (who died in 1453) See the Earl of Mar page for a full listing. Swanny18 (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

is bobbin also robert de lasalle.

Numbering problem

 * The article title is "John Erskine, 22nd Earl of Mar"
 * The lead begins "John Erskine, 23rd and de jure 6th Earl of Mar" and goes on to say
 * he "was the eldest son of the 22nd Earl of Mar...by modern reckoning he was 23rd Earl of Mar"
 * Charles Erskine, 21st Earl of Mar is apparently his father.
 * Earl of Mar goes with him being the 23rd Earl.

The changes to the lead were made by an anon IP in Dec 09 to agree with the last named, but the current wording is clearly ridiculous - have amended it to previous version. Ben  Mac  Dui  18:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And his biography on the ODNB is: Christoph v. Ehrenstein, ‘Erskine, John, styled twenty-second or sixth earl of Mar and Jacobite duke of Mar (bap. 1675, d. 1732)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, Jan 2008. PurpleHz (talk) 21:23, 6 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It is confusing, but Burkes (and Debretts) list him as the 23rd and 6th earl, according to the creations of the title; the ODNB may have it wrong. See the Earl of Mar page for an explanation. Swanny18 (talk) 19:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Moved
Following the discussion here, I've moved this page so that the subject is disambiguated by date. This is far less confusing than by succession number. Swanny18 (talk) 19:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)