Talk:John Horsefield

Probable original research, so leaving a note
There is only one Horsefield recorded as living in the Whitefield area during the relevant timescale and of an appropriate age. That person is recorded as "Jno. Horsfield" in the 1851 UK census, is slap-bang in the Besses o' th' Barn area (what was then "Narrow Lane" is now "Victoria Avenue"/"Victoria Lane"). The recorded person is married to an "Esther", who is of the correct age also. I dare not enter this information in the article because it relies on primary sources but, bearing in mind that I have in the past been asked by people who think that they may have a family connection when writing articles such as this, the relevant paper trail can be found from UK census Class: HO107; Piece: 2216; Folio: 395; Page: 54; GSU roll: 87226.

Furthermore, there is this from a doctor who attended at his (sounds rather painful) death. - Sitush (talk) 00:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Early Life
I think the last paragraph of "Early life" should be removed; or, at least, stop at the first note. All of that info on women attending being banned from botanical meetings is interesting, but does not really seem related to Horsefield himself (unless we have reason to believe that he was somehow part of the movement to exclude them). Qwyrxian (talk) 02:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Removed. The source that I had hoped would elucidate the issue has turned up and does not. - Sitush (talk) 10:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Swain's poem
I think that this is too bulky for the article but it took some digging out & so I'll leave it here just in case it is of use in the future. Swain's poem on the death of Horsefield was:

Ye who behold God's works in Nature's ways, And find in flowers mute anthems to His praise, Who read the volume of eternal love In seeds of earth, as in the stars above, Here read a name, whose fame shall long endure, One of poor birth, but gifted, although poor. God, unlike man, the humblest spirit lifts, Nor asks his wealth before He sends His gifts. Where'er botanic science could be learned, New links disclosed, new species yet discerned, Where'er by wood, or lane, or heath, or hill God open'd the book that taught botanic skill; There Horsefield's foot from dawn to eve was seen To learn, to teach, to be what he has been— An honour to the soil that gave him birth, A mind of truth, a heart instinct with worth. Oh ! may the spirit for whose loss we grieve Our God accept—our Saviour Lord receive. -Sitush (talk) 10:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

a little clean up
Hi, I think Br'er Rabbit did a little clean up so there's no longer the harb error message. The citation situation looks much better! MathewTownsend (talk) 13:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the error was fixed, but there was also some completely unnecessary changes to style of headings and ref names - it just adds clutter in the edit box and I am tempted to revert that particular bit. However, I am hopeful that there is a good rationale and so have asked. - Sitush (talk) 13:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Br'er Rabbit said the problem was the link was missing, thus the error. He said "that cite is enabled for harv linking, but nothing is doing so. The script is just telling you that." You might want to contact him to make sure it's done right. He's very good with citations; he formats them for the ease of the reader, so the reader can click to the citation rather than hunt through dense lists manually.
 * By the way did you see my note to you on my talk page on Fertilisation of Orchids? MathewTownsend (talk) 13:01, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I contacted him here. Not seen your note - will go look now! - Sitush (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I just replied in some detail on my talk. This is useful and needful improvement. Please leave it be. Br&#39;er Rabbit (talk) 20:25, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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William Bally
The edit that I reverted here included a claim that William Bally made a death mask. I know that some of the other changes in that edit were not in accordance with the sources but I thought perhaps the bit about Bally might indeed be in the Manchester Guardian of 10 March 1854 as stated. It wasn't, nor indeed does it appear to be anywhere in that newspaper, so I am curious regarding where the quote came from.

The contributor only made that one edit but I have no reason to think that they were other than a misguided newbie, ie: it wasn't intended as a hoax etc. - Sitush (talk) 16:44, 2 October 2017 (UTC)