Talk:John Howard (prison reformer)/Archive 1

Criticism
The section on criticism, does not outline any criticism, rather it appears to constitute personal opinion backed by a single and largely irrelevant reference. Furthermore this criticism which might otherwise be worth editing and being improved and verifed properly seems to lack proper understanding of both the Why and What of Howards ideas... TheKrikkitWars 14:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheKrikkitWars (talk • contribs)

Birthplace
A birthplace of Lower Clapton was added by User:Stetay in 2006.

The main sources I have available are neither so specific nor so certain:
 * The DNB says "...born most probably in Hackney on 2 Sept. 1726. There is some uncertainty both as to the date and the place of his birth, but in default of absolute proof to the contrary the inscription on his monument in St. Paul's is likely to be correct."
 * The ODNB (subscription required) is more certain it's uncertainty "...was born in either Hackney or Enfield, probably on 2 September 1726. It is not certain that the inscription on his monument in St Paul's Cathedral, which gives Hackney as his place of birth, is correct."
 * Discovering Statues by Margaret Beckett says "believed to have been born in Hackney".

Hackney claims him as their own (Clapton's) in this local authority biography, and there is a London Borough of Hackney Brown Plaquee erected in his name at 157-9 Lower Clapton Road E5.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:22, 8 May 2015 (UTC).

"Note II - p.3 Dr. Aikin's account of the place of Mr. Howard's birth is, &emdash; "His father &emdash; retired from business, and had a house first at Enfield and afterwards at Hackney. It was, I believe at the former of these places that Mr Howard was born."* The M.S. by Mr. Palmer states, however, most explicitly, that this event took place at Clapton; and, form and intimate friendship of thirty years with this distinguished character, it is hardly possible that he could have been mistaken..." the not continues for several pages citing several manuscripts (memoirs and letters) and:
 * Aikin's "View of the Character &c.of Mr. Howard," page 9 & 10
 * Universal Magazine Vol LXXXXVI of pp 169-74; 255-63, 319
 * Gentleman's Magazine Vol LX part I page pp 277, 287, 369 (the latter April 1790)
 * A letter signed by Richard Gough same volume

and indirectly


 * Gentleman's Magazine Vol XII p 499 (obit) 9 September 1742

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:46, 8 May 2015 (UTC).

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