Talk:John Loudon McAdam

Query
I once heard that John McAdam was also well known for an outstanding activity not related to his engineering feats. Possibly something to do with orphans. Any assistance in this search would be appreciated as I met a fellow (senior) who wasn't familiar with the importance of the famous surname he shared. This was the first time he had been alerted to that. However, I was embarrassed in that I couldn't paint the rest of the picture. As you can no doubt tell, I'm very nnew to this web thing, but think that such an obscure topic is best suited to this forum. My email address is: keringle3@bigpond.com.au I think! And we only open once a week. Thank you in anticipation...........Rojo?

Name: McAdam vs MacAdam
The name should be discussed, as to why the construction technique is called macadam when it appears that he was known by the abbreviated form. --68.83.72.162 (talk) 18:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Primary sources are helpful for these kinds of matters...there does *appear* to be one such source listed, but requires a login to access. Usually Scottish names use 'Mac' and Irish names use 'Mc'. May not always been the case though Firejuggler86 (talk) 09:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Evolution, not revolution...?
A recent edit to macadam has noted that McAdam's contribution was to greatly simplify a building technique already in use designed by the French engineer Pierre-Marie-Jérôme Trésaguet. It would be appropriate to amend the text in this article accordingly.

EdJogg (talk) 09:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Macadam has been further edited with more comprehensive coverage, better explaining the connection between the two methods. -- EdJogg (talk) 12:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Emilia McAdam
Emilia McAdam (fl. circa 1900) would have had 64 grandparents of John Loudon's generation (and I'm grateful to last week's QI for this concept—apparently I'm a direct descendent of Emperor Charlemagne). If my fingers-of-one-hand calculation is right—and I'm certainly open to correction here—would it diminish the notability of this piece of information in the article? --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

You're a direct descendant of Chalemagne? No, what you are is a pathetic idiot who is dumb enough to believe that crap. The records needed to prove that don't fucking exist you twat.


 * Have you seen the original reference in Richard McCreery? Talk about 'padding'! Although it has been in that article since day one (Aug 2006). Since this relationship is not actually referenced you would be quite at liberty to remove it anyway. On the other hand it is traditional with such information to link in both directions. I suspect the fact is rather more significant to Mr McCreery than JLM... -- EdJogg (talk) 11:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No strong support here for retention and nothing from Google, other than Wikipedia itself and its parasites, by way of a reference. Item removed. No appetite for doing the same on Richard McCreery, though. --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

John Loudon McAdam birth date and spelling of his middle name.
According to O.P.R. Births 578/00 0040 0022 Ayr, John Loudon McAdam was born on the 23rd Sept 1756. However it appears to be widely incorrectly stated to be the 21st. Also his middle name was initially recorded as Lathian (or possibly Lothian) and then corrected to Lowdon. I am not sure how the spelling got changed to Loudon, but that is probably closer to the probable origin being Loudoun. Loudon is the spelling that has been used by descendants, through the generations, down to and including the present day. (Including the above "banished" General Sir Richard Loudon McCreery.)

Sir James McAdam's middle name was spelt Nicoll according to his Probate documents, and this would tie in with his mothers maiden name and the names Nicoll Bay and Nicoll Avenue, on Long Island New York, named after the family. Tar mac (talk) 13:18, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Here's an online reference corroborating this. I'll add that to the article. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Cousins?
The colliery supplied coal to the British Tar Company, of Archibald Cochrane, 9th Earl of Dundonald
 * I believe the two of them were cousins. Any reference to support this? Valetude (talk) 07:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I believe they were second cousins, their common ancestors being their Great Grandparents John Cochrane 1635-1707 and Margaret Strickland 1625-1670. Tar mac (talk) 00:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Death
The northern hemisphere summer runs from June to a usually generous September. Unless he had a long illness I don't see the connection in him returning to Scotland considering he died in late November, a month that is very much NOT summer. 86.27.53.199 (talk) 09:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Lagwine / Lagwyne
I don't believe that he lived at Lagwyne with his grandparents. Lagwyne was / is on the western edge of the Waterhead property and was his fathers house until it was burnt down in 1762 about 6 years after it as built. His paternal grandfather died in 1735 and his maternal grandfather in 1729. The ruins of Lagwyne can still be seen. Tar mac (talk) 00:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)