Talk:John McGraw

Reassessment?
Should this article be reassessed in the interim as we improve it toward FA nomination? It hardly seems only "start-class" now, but I've never really assessed articles, so I'm not sure. S. Dean Jameson 18:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, just concentrate on improving the article, the assessment isn't anything major until we get it to GA.  Black  ngold29   18:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I just thought if there were people who assess these things, they'd like to know that an article clssified "high" on the importance list was not "start class" any more. But if you think it's not really necessary, I'll certainly defer to you on this. S. Dean Jameson 18:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The length isn't bad, but I think it needs more sources for a B class.  Black  ngold29   18:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The Article actually meets all but one criteria for Level B. There are still large gaps without references.  My oppinion is once that it corrected, not only will it be a B, but it should be at least be peer reviewed then GA reviewed. I could help out a little bit on this article, I just don't want to undo anything that people have been working hard on.Neonblak (talk) 18:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My problem is that I've been referencing only at the end of long blocks of writing. I guess I could go back in and place inline cites at each point where any sort of factual claim is made, but won't that clutter the article, instead of improving it? S. Dean Jameson 18:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My favorite policy has become citations. The more you can back up the info in the article, the more stable and reliable it will be. And the more sources that you use, gives people more sources to learn about the article's topic. I'm working on getting PNC Park to FA status, I tried to give a citation for every sentence if possible. Although, I wrote that one from scratch and adding cites as you write definately makes it easier.  Black  ngold29   18:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * To me, all the citations after even non-controversial sentences would seem to clutter the article, taking away something from it aesthetically. Am I wrong here? S. Dean Jameson 18:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you're correct. Only "material likely to be challenged" needs a citation, but it's best to have too many than not enough. I think Art Houtteman is the latest ball player FA, and it seems to be pretty solidly sourced.  Black  ngold29   18:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Start class?
I've seen a lot of start class articles. I've never seen an article of this quality receive such a poor rating. Please support that rating here. S. D. D.J.Jameson 22:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Look, I know I'm probably talking (writing) to myself here, but the Eric Holder article was just reassessed as "C-class", yet this one is still "Start"? S. D. D.J.Jameson 12:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I know it can be frustrating, but normally, I just assess the articles I've been working myself, using the WP grading schemes. Up to class 'B', you can do it yourself, then you can send it up for peer review.  You can always look at the GA articles, and look under "edit this page", and see the little things like non-breaking spaces and referencing that is the standard. I would be more involved with this article, but i've been working a small article for more than a week now. Neonblak  talk  -  15:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Executives between Brush and Stoneham ownerships
This is a duplicate from Talk: Harry Hempstead, where I posted it a few minutes ago. It belongs here too, where the article implies that McGraw became much more powerful in the organization under Stoneham as owner, following Hempstead. No doubt many fans of baseball history suppose that McGraw was almost all powerful already under John T. Brush.
 * What did Hempstead do as club owner? What did John B. Foster (baseball) do as the Secretary? (header and lead from NYTimes 1919-12-15, pay-per-view article) Does that title mean Foster was not an executive? John McGraw was the field manager and probably the most powerful person in the organization. Was there a fourth person with some general manager's or president's duties? --P64 (talk) 23:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

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Four straight World Series
The Yankees also played in four straight World Series 1998-2001. Please fix article 24.229.129.126 (talk) 00:54, 29 November 2022 (UTC)