Talk:John Muir Trail

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I think that having a map would be good too one is https://besthike.com/n-america/sierra-nevada/john-muir-trail-2/. That map also shows the different national maps and forest that the trail goes through. -Wrenmcdaniel (talk) 20:40, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

map please
anyone have an actual map of the trail?! That would be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.223.233.40 (talk) 20:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Records for hiking the JMT?
Putting aside the question of whether hiking the JMT at a fast clip in order to obtain a "record" is a worthwhile endeavor (I see these "record holders" staring at the top of their boots for 211 miles instead of enjoying the scenery), I would like to know where the "Records" section of this article came from. It says that Reinhold Metzger did it "unresupplied" in 5 days 7 Hours 45 minutes (no seconds!) and Kevin Sawchuck did it "resupplied" 3 days 21 hours 5 minutes (again, no seconds!). This section is unsourced. Who clocked Metzger's and Sawchuck's starting times? Who was there to make sure they didn't cut out of the trail at Tome's Place and hitch-hike to Yosemite? I would like to remove this section until such time as somebody can source the brave exploits of speed-hikers Metzger and Sawchuck. Hashaw 16:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * As someone who has hiked the JMT and briefly kept up with a group that were fastpacking, I can guarantee no one *could* do the JMT while looking at their shoes. Any hiker that can do that kind of speed will be studying the terrain ahead of themselves, and probably barely needs to look at the trail in front of them: the more you hike, the better your brain gets at unconsciously spotting the best placement for each step and letting your awareness focus on longer-term issues, such as preparing for a sudden change in grade or an ambiguity about which way the trail is going. MrRedwood (talk) 00:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

--- Comment on Hashaw's deletion: An inability to grasp the concept of human endeavor throughout mankinds entire history is not sufficient reason for Hashaw to delete the records section for the John Muir trail. However, a failure to provide adequate sourcing "possibly" is. Man is a competitive animal. Its part of his being. Once you've hiked the JMT 7 times (like Metzger before his record) what's wrong with going for speed. [User:asandh] 10:20am, 18 July 2007.

Adding ascent and descent miles
The article states the total length of the trail is 211 horizontal + 16 vertical = 227 miles. Doesn't this addition assume that all movement on the trail is either purely horizontal or purely vertical? 206.124.146.40 (talk) 03:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. The information should be removed, since the person who made the edit is not familiar with the Pythagorean theorem.--71.240.77.210 (talk) 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Right, the problem of integration elevation change into the path length is more complicated than either simple addition or Pythagorean addition. The true contribution would be something less than 16 miles but likely greater than the figure calculated using the Pythagorean.--Nathan Clement (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, the claim that the total gain is 46,000 feet and total loss is 38,000 feet implies a difference in elevation of 8,000 feet between the two endpoints. In fact the elevation difference between Happy Isles and Mt. Whitney is over 10,000 feet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.243.121 (talk) 21:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

New JMT in Scotland
Not content with the most famous long trail in the world, or one of the nicest pocket National Parks, Mr. Muir wrangled another in Tennessee. He's not done yet in his crass attempts at fame: another JMT long trail is going up in Scotland. Only 105 miles long and apparently without notable climbs or passes, but still, some will eventually come looking for it here: http://www.cumbernauld-news.co.uk/news/local-headlines/countdown-to-the-launch-of-the-john-muir-trail-1-2898460 — MrRedwood (talk) 00:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)