Talk:John Ormsby (settler)

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Ragfin, good start. you'll need to fix your links so they aren't bare, like this. Name of Link. It will look like this: Name of Link
 * I added the link on Henry Boquet. Stanwix is probably in there too. Be careful of Point of View--such as "fortunately, so and so arrived with food etc." Proceed!  Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:23, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * 1) You still need to fix the links. Do it as I showed you above.
 * 2) Lead: needs to reflect the article. You have information in the lead you do not summarize in the article and vice versa (for example, his career as a teacher).
 * 3) Comprehensiveness: there should be more on him, his background, etc. Are you sure you've found a reasonable amount of material on him?  See here, and here, and here, in which he signs a petition for help with the Indian Wars], and so on.
 * 4) what is a land grant and why did he get one?
 * 5) what happened in the law suit and what was the relationship to his dying intestate?
 * 6) where is the South Side?
 * 7) How did he get to Pittsburgh (I know, he walked or rode, but why?)
 * 8) POV--you still have some "unfortunately" etc. in there.
 * 9) I have no sense from this article why he is notable.
 * 10) What did Judge Mellon say about him? what was his character like?
 * 11) Is he connected to the Ormsby family of connecticut?

Just a few ideas. Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

clarity
further reflection, there is a considerable confusion between the taking of Fort Duquesne and Pontiac's war. See here for some help with that. And also this may have some usable information. Auntieruth55 (talk)

the problem with family histories is there reliability. For example, Oliver Ormsby Page claimed his "grandfather?" was a major, but had been offered a captain's commission in 1755. This sounds fishy to me. so I looked in the 60th Regiment of foot register, here, and John Ormsby is listed as a lieutenant in 1761. Now, it may not be the same John Ormsby, but this was the regiment that was at Fort Pitt (see the list of commanders), and this is likely to be his regiment. this needs further exploration. Auntieruth55 (talk) 17:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * This article, however, documents better what you need perhaps. Public Advertiser (London, England), Monday, March 22, 1756; Issue 6681. Referring to the commissions offered in the Royal American Regiment of Foot in America.  (Ormsby offered a captaincy).  Auntieruth55 (talk) 17:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


 * "The County Committees of 1774-'75 in Virginia: II". Charles Washington Coleman. 'The William and Mary Quarterly', Vol. 5, No. 4 (Apr., 1897), pp. 245-255.
 * "Pittsburgh's Pioneering in Scientific Taxation." Percy R. Williams. American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Vol. 21, No. 1 (Jan., 1962), pp. 37-56.