Talk:John R. Buckmaster

Request for photographs
Hi ,

I hope you are keeping well and safe? All is well here, and I keep Wikibeavering away, as usual... Since we last communicated about photos for Adrian Morris (actor) which you so kindly supplied, I have today created the present article and hope I can once again accept your kind offer to help me secure at least one photograph for the infobox, please Rob? Thank you in advance for your cooperation, if/when you have the time; no rush at all.

I have searched online and there are several photos of John Buckmaster. In particular, the first one below would be perfect; since it's used at a blog/fan site, I wonder if it might be free of copyright? (Unless Liam Bluett owns it, of course):
 * John Buckmaster at liambluett.com

... or possibly some other photos from:


 * gladyscooper.com

... or any displayed at Google images:

As always: very many thanks for your generous assistance if it's still on offer, Rob, and whenever convenient.
 * John Buckmaster

With kind regards for now;

Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 16:23, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Patrick, good to hear from you. I stuck out looking for images on eBay, my favourite source for PD images, so I have loaded the image that you found as a Non-free image, after cleaning it up, removing the autograph and reducing it in size.  I have also written to Liam Bluett to see if he has any further information on the image so I can at least add the name of the photographer if it's available, and better yet, we might even determine that it's a free image.  Rob Robman94 (talk) 22:59, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear ,

With kind regards for now; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 23:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You’re so good! Thank you so much for enabling me to benefit from your experience in this area once again and, of course, for doing such a great job, as always, and so thoroughly! Fingers crossed that we can keep it if/when Liam replies to you. If I can ever do anything to help you in return, perhaps by looking for sources for you, or whatever, then please don’t hesitate to ask and I’ll be only too glad to return the favour. Please keep well and safe.

Hi again ,

I hope I won't be overstaying my welcome by requesting your assistance again (so soon!) for the following items, whenever convenient to you, please Rob:
 * 1) I just uploaded File:Tovarich Lyric Theatre Cast list 21Oct1935.jpg and added it into the Career section; please could you kindly check that I did that as required, and correct anything I (most likely) will have done wrong?


 * 1) There are two photos of Buckmaster in character, at arthur-conan-doyle.com. Please could you determine whether we might be able to upload these as well, for use in the present article? If so, please would you do that for me also?

Thank you very much for your continued assistance, Rob!

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 15:50, 17 August 2020 (UTC) With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 21:33, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That's hard to say, one of the rules of non-free use is that it is minimal, meaning (1) that the file itself is not overused and (2) there is only a minimal use of non-free images in the article itself. In this case it appears that the only reason for including the image is to prove that Buckmaster actually played the role of Georges Dupont, and that could easily be done by using the source URL as a reference. If you do go that route, given that the source is an auction listing, I would recommend that you archive it at archive.org first and include that in the reference.  Let me know if you need help with any of that.  Rob Robman94 (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks alot for your guidance, . Yes, I have already used the source url (see ref digit #26) but, as you say, it's at abebooks.co.uk and that's why I thought it would be better to upload the photo to Wikipedia instead. I like your idea of uploading it at archive.org, but I don't know how to do that. So, if it's something you could teach me how to do, then I'd be grateful for a step-by-step lesson at my own talk page, please Rob, unless that's too much of an imposition. But if you'd rather do it yourself to save time and effort, then that's obviously fine too. Unfortunately, there's too much I don't know about all this, and maybe I should just stick to writing the articles and leave the whole area of uploading files to others. Uploading covers of albums and books is easy enough, but I seem to have difficulty with photos. In any case, thank you for your patience with me, Rob, and for your helpful assistance, which is much appreciated.
 * PS: A bot has already added the Non-free reduce template to my uploaded file, here.
 * You just go to web.archive.org and enter the URL in the SAVE box, or search for the URL and it will offer to save it if it hasn't been done so already. I got an error when I tried to save the abebooks.co.uk URL, so I saved the URL for the image instead.  You can see how to incorporate an archive in your reference from the edit I just did to the article.  Regarding why the bot tagged your image, the general rule of thumb for non-free images is that they should be 100,000 pixels or less.  You calculate that number by multiplying the height by the width (eg, a 200*300 image uses 60,000 bytes). I just experimented with reducing your image and when it's reduced to an allowable size, you can't read the text anymore. Robman94 (talk) 03:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear ,

With kind regards Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 09:29, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That's wonderful; thank you so much for taking these actions, and for teaching me how to do this myself in future. I didn't know how to "save the URL of the image" but, after experimenting just now, discovered the method (right-click on the displayed image, then select 'Copy image address'). So, next time I want to cite a similar image, I'll be able to accomplish all this myself, including the use of the '|archiveurl=' parameter, thanks to you. As for the 'Tovarich' image file I had uploaded for use in the article, I have now removed it and also requested its deletion, using Twinkle CSD/F7; many thanks also for testing a lo-res version, only to find it unreadable. As always, I am most grateful to you for your patient and clear guidance, and your generous assistance. You never know; one day I might even become self-sufficient! Please keep well and safe, Rob.

Feedback from New Page Review process
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Nice article!.

(t &#183; c)  buidhe  06:27, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

NFCC Images
Hey Patrick, you will have noticed that a bot removed your photo of Jean Gillie from this article. If you want to use an NFCC image in an article, you need to add a rationale for its use. If you look at the you will see that there's a rationale for its use in the article on the actress, so you could copy that and modify it as necessary. There's no guarantee that your new use will be approved, so it's possible that someone may still delete it again in the future, but without the rationale someone will delete it, as occurred this time. Rob Robman94 (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear ,

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 21:01, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You are such a helpful colleague; thank you for keeping an eye! Yes, I did notice the bot’s removal but didn’t know what to do, so gave up on using that image. I am travelling within the UK at the moment but will be back home at the weekend, and will try to learn more about how to take the step(s) you pointed out in this post without imposing on your kindness. Take care, Rob, and many thanks for your thoughtful support.
 * Hi again,

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 08:44, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I fear I must impose on your guidance once again: I know what I have to do (update the Jeangillie file to indicate the image will also be displayed in the article on John R. Buckmaster because she is mentioned there) but I don’t know how to do that. I consulted the Template:Non-free use rationale and also read both the Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline and Help:File description page, but could not find any step-by-step instructions, such as:
 * If you want to re-use an existing image file in an article, you need to add a rationale for its re-use by taking the following steps: ...
 * If such a how-to description is available at an existing Help page, then could you please add a link to it here; otherwise, I’d be grateful for your instructions, so that I can learn how to do it myself. Thank you for your continued help, Rob.
 * Go to the file and click on the EDIT button, then you'll notice they're using the "Non-free use rationale" template, simply copy/paste a 2nd copy of that entry, then replace the article name with your article and modify the text with your justification as to why you think the use of the photo benefits your article. Robman94 (talk) 16:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again,

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 11:10, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your patience in teaching a granddad how to suck eggs... . I've followed your crystal clear instructions and found that, yet again, in the immortal words of Levon Helm admiring Garth Hudson's piano playing on "Rag Mama Rag": Ain't it easy when you know how! I'll make a note of this for future use, as I am sure I'll need to do this again in other articles. Thank you once again, Rob; I owe you a debt of gratitude for all your vigilant and helpful assistance in my hour of need! Until next time, please keep well and stay safe.

John Buckmaster
John had a son called Paul Buckmaster. Paul studied classical music and became Elton John's orchestral arranger. He died a few years ago in his late 70's. 185.69.145.13 (talk) 05:59, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!) 10:21, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, 185.69.145.13, but please read the first footnote or, better still, this exchange about Paul Buckmaster's father.