Talk:John Savage (soldier)

Article re-name
It has been suggested that the title of this article could be improved. Taking account of all the others at John Savage and all the others at Category:Knights of the Garter, I'd initially suggest "John Savage (died 1492)". Any other comments or suggestions would be welcome. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:39, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Many thanks, Martin, and I agree. 217.169.51.41 (talk) 19:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * How about John Savage (soldier)? Works for Gilbert Talbot (soldier), a near contemporary of similar standing. Robevans123 (talk) 23:47, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * No objections. Seems unlikely there's another one. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:56, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks Rob - like it..! The simpler, the better. Best 217.169.51.41 (talk) 00:14, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Duncan - why has this run out of steam (maybe Martinevans123's local difficulties?), especially after such initial interest, & how long does Wiki let it run for before making a decision? Sir John Savage (aka John Savage, KG), as styled currently, is the worst of both worlds because Wiki seems to be attempting to rewrite history according to its own strictures, which of course is no good... Best, 86.159.50.195 (talk) 03:09, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have been asked to take a look and make a comment. I note both John Savage (soldier) and John Savage (died 1492) have been suggested, although I'm not aware of the history of a page move to a different name being requested. There is some guidance at Article titles and more specifically Naming conventions (people) and reviewing these it appears either of the proposed changes is acceptable. The specific guidance at Disambiguating says: "If there is no usual form of conventional disambiguation, place a disambiguating tag in parentheses after the name." Therefore I think John Savage (soldier) is probably the most useful as people searching for information about him are likely to know he was a soldier but may not know his date of birth or death.&mdash; Rod talk 18:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. So I'll move it. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:23, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Martin & welcome back, Best 217.169.51.41 (talk) 03:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC) (L'hon.). PS. perhaps User:L'honorable could also now be exonerated? What do you think?
 * I think anything's possible, even if it's about as likely as hell freezing over. But here is probably not the best venue for discussion. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:54, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Template:Infobox military person
This info box doesn't take "honorific-prefix " or "honorific-suffix" as parameters. Any way round this, or is the layout meant to differ from other bio articles? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * But it does take "honorific_prefix" or "honorific_suffix" (note underscores) as parameters. RTFM! Robevans123 (talk) 23:37, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Next stage

 * This has been an excellent review—a peer review, in fact!—by . I would expect that, with little more than a few prose nitpicks and a peremptory demand to sort out your bibliography, I'd support the promotion of this article to Featured status; please see WP:FA? for your next move. Thanking you for this, 2A02:C7F:F34D:CD00:DDD3:22C3:753C:950B (talk) 16:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)