Talk:John Underhill (captain)

Descendants of Captain John
I'm a direct descendant of Captain John, and all together I find this article to be pretty accurate and to the point (despite leaving out a few important details). I'm somewhat disinclined to agree with the use of the word 'slaughter' concerning The Captain's interaction with Native Americans, but I'm biased.

Question about the reprise of the Pequot attack
I've been reading up on my ancestor, John Underhill, and found this account of an Indian attack while in Dutch service. It doesn't conform with what is already in the article. Is this a different attack, or is what is already written here wrong? I don't want to change what's already written, but the two accounts sound very similar except for the fact that Wikipedia has it occuring in New York while this account has it in Stamford, Ct.

''After trying his fortune in the Piscataqua country, and then at Stamford, he came at this most critical moment and gave the tottering colony of New Netherland the benefit of his military skill and experience. Perhaps it would not be extravagant to call him the saviour of New Netherland. Things had reached a point where the civilized methods of De Vries were of no more avail. An annihilating blow was needed, and Underhill was the man for such work. His crowning exploit was almost an exact repetition of the storming of the Pequot village, except for the absence of the element of surprise. The Indians had a very strong palisaded village in the rugged mountain had a very strong palisaded village in the rugged mountain country north of Stamford, and there in March, 1644, more than 700 warriors were congregated.''

''Underhill came from Manhattan, with 150 Dutch soldiers, in three yachts, and lauded at Greenwich, whence a long day's march took them to the mountain. There was a full moon, as on Destruction tne Pequot night, and the white snow Algonquin made it like day, when at midnight they stronghold. ruslie(jupon the stronghold. The Indians were keeping a vigilant watch, but fared no better than the Pequots. Before daybreak all was over. The village was in ashes, eight Indians had escaped and seven hundred corpses lay reddening the snow, while the Dutch had lost but fifteen men.''

''The immediate result of this appalling blow was the breaking up of the formidable league of tribes against the Dutch. ''

http://books.google.com/books?id=IQMOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA187&dq=%22john+underhill%22&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1

Pmcyclist (talk) 20:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * North from Stamford is NY. It was the night of February 25th 1644. Underhill marched north from Greenwich. According to Underhill's account in his journal published in "Narratives of New Netherlands", the village was surprised. He surrounded the Kitchawanc village and set fire to it. 500 - 700 men, women and children were killed. There is dispute as to where the village was. Generally in the area of Pound Ridge and Bedford NY.
 * (This is my first attempt at contributing to Wikipedia. My appologies if I did this wrong.)
 * Tksinnott (talk) 02:26, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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Underhill's expulsion from Mass Bay
Captain Underhill's religious belief was not what exactly what got him expelled, it was the way he expressed them, according to John Winthrop. The actual act that triggered the expulsion hearing was, according to Winthrop's journals, the Captain being caught in an adulterous triste with the wife of a member in good standing of the colony. The concern about the Captain's beliefs was that he would use Hutchinson's preachings, and declare himself elect to justify his behavior and put him above the law. Riga1964 (talk) 13:17, 17 March 2022 (UTC)