Talk:Johnnie Notions

Pronunciation
, I don't personally think that your interpretation of an audio is a good source for the IPA or the respell given (twice) in the article. I haven't been to Shetland; how do they usually pronounce "Johnnie" there? How differently is this guy's name pronounced? Who has written about the pronunciation being different from normal? If the answer is "nobody", then this probably doesn't belong in the article. I'm also greatly against having loads of metadata cluttering the opening sentence like this; if the sourcing was there to keep it, I'd prefer it to appear only once, in the infobox for preference. --The Huhsz (talk) 22:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi - before I start and for your info I'm a native Shetlander and speak Shetland dialect. While the name "John" is pronounced here almost exactly the same as it would be in Scottish English or Standard English, the nickname "Johnnie" uses a different vowel sound - it's more like the "oh" in Joni Mitchell, rather than the 'aw' in Johnny Appleseed. I thought it relevant to include this as the common spelling of his name might imply the "Johnny Appleseed" pronunciation, which isn't the case. Also, if "John" and "Johnnie" had the same vowel sound you could write it off as a difference in pronunciation due to the dialect, but the fact they're different surely means otherwise. I don't have a written source on this pronunciation to hand at the moment, but I can assure you this is the common pronunciation of this nickname here, and this doesn't apply just to Johnnie Notions in particular - any Johnnie that is a Shetlander will be pronounced this way. A couple more examples for you - this one at the very beginning, this one about 00:40]. I do see there's a book in my "local" library (30+ miles away!) that might have relevant content I could source, I'll see if I can borrow a copy shortly and get a better source.
 * As for the metadata, I have no objection to you deleting either the section in the lead or the infobox, whichever you prefer. Griceylipper (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that is very interesting. I'd rather see a footnote to the effect that "Johnnie" is pronounced with a long vowel in Shetland than the current status quo which makes it look like he was unique in having his name pronounced that way. If a written reference can be found, and you continue to think it's important, I think this would be the way to go. Thanks for writing such an interesting article by the way. --The Huhsz (talk) 23:12, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

"Bleaching" link - in need of clarification
"It was capable of performing the same function of bleaching as the original mill through the power of a hand-turned crank"

In Other occupations section, I suggest the link to bleaching be removed or clarified.

From that one source, it's unclear what type of mill it was (grist mill, paper mill, ore mill,...) and what was meant by bleaching. Pointing it that Wiki article is not specific enough and it could even be unrelated (e.g. if it was some contemporary term in ore processing)

Technicality nitpicker (talk) 16:01, 3 September 2021 (UTC)