Talk:Johnny Haynes

Expanding this article
In view of the sad news today of Johnny's death I'm going to expand this stub over the next hour or so. I'm going to keep an eye on this page, so please post here if you want to do something yourself. --Ormondroyd 20:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

...okay, done for now --Ormondroyd 21:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

One-club man?
Haynes was often quoted and referred to in the media as a one-club man. It was considered that he retired from 'first-class' football in 1970 from Fulham. South African league was considered more exhibitionary. And any substantiate he was on loan to Toronto City in 1961? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.145.187 (talk) 23:59, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

says "spent his entire first class career at Fulham between 1952 and 1970." on official website- http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/ClubHistory/HistoryOverview.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.82.42 (talk) 19:31, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Timelines
There's been a bit of early confusion as to the date of Johnny's death. Seems now that he died on the evening of Tuesday 18th (see numerous news sources) after an accident on the 17th. Worth keeping an eye on this as the facts emerge. --Ormondroyd 06:02, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

He was in the car with "The only woman he ever loved" - can this be substantiated, or is it based on the opinion of the writer of this article. Surely such a statement is conjecture at best? It must certainly be somewhat belittling to his first two wives and any children they had.

The petition?
I'm willing to have this reverted but I've removed the details about the tribute petition. The club opened this to wide consultation and invited emails, letters, etc. The decision unless I'm very much mistaken was taken as a result of a wide range of communication from fans, and there isn't any particular evidence that I'm aware of that a single petition was any more significant than any other organised or individual communication. It just seemed a little unencyclopaedic to assert its significance in this way... that seem okay? Ormondroyd 14:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

The riversiders?
In the section about Haynes being the first £100-week player, Fulham Fc are refered to as the riversiders, a term I have never heard used to describe Fulham before. The term isn't mentioned on the wiki page about Fulam FC either. Perhaps it ought to be changed to the Cottagers, the Whites or just Fulham FC? 163.1.36.187 (talk) 14:23, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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Greatest Footballer?
Thie first paragraph's purple prose includes the statement "Haynes is widely regarded as the greatest footballer ever to play for the west London club". Haynes was a great player, certainly, but that statement is nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Apart from the writer, I'm not sure you will find anyone who would agree with it. I say that not because I am anti-Haynes, but because I am pro-Moore and pro-Best. Yeah, they were in decline when they played for Fulham, but they were both far greater players than Haynes ever was. By all means keep some sort of statement in there that is less inclusive, waffle a bit about the length of his career being important in his case. He was probably much more important to Fulham than Moore and Best, but that's not what the statement claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.18.34 (talk) 20:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Won South African league in 1970-71?
This article says Johnny made 24 appearances for Durban City in 1970-71 and also that he won the National Football League (South Africa) that season. However, the article for the National Football League (South Africa) says that the club were champions in 1969-70 and in 1971-72 but only finished third in 1970-71. As that article seems unlikely to be wrong, it looks like it is this article that is wrong: either about the season (or seasons) in which Johnny played for Durban City or else about his winning the championship with the club. His entry in 'Fulham Wiki' ( https://fulham.fandom.com/wiki/Johnny_Haynes ), says that he left Fulham for Durban City in August, 1970. Another site, 'TransferMarkt' ( https://www.transfermarkt.us/johnny-haynes/profil/spieler/136163 ) says that he joined Durban City on a free transfer from Fulham on 01 July, 1970, and left Durban City to join Wealdstone FC exactly a year later, on 01 July, 1971. If this is true, then he never won the South African championship and, sadly, never won anything in senior football. Then again, another site, 'National Football Teams' ( https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/18008/Johnny_Haynes.html ), says that he was with Durban City for both the 1970-71 season and the 1971-72 seasons and did not move to Wealdstone until the 1972-73 season, which, if true, means that he could in fact have won the South African league. 2.31.195.247 (talk) 20:38, 30 August 2020 (UTC)