Talk:Johns Hopkins Hospital/Archive 1

Johns
Johns Hopkins Medicine needs its own article - or, at least, a redirect here. I can't write it anymore, as a chronically unregistered user, so somebody else should get on that. (JHM, incidentally, is the relatively new organization encompassing the hospital, the School of Medicine, and various other smaller entities like Johns Hopkins International.) 195.33.207.23 14:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, this article is itself rather pathetic, don't you think? Not even a pretty picture of the Dome? Hopkins is described in the first paragraph as one of the world's most important hospital, so where's the proverbial beef? 195.33.207.23 14:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I've added a picture of the Dome. Antelan 06:50, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

First Women Head of Surgery
I heard they now have the first women head of surgery at a major hospital. Should this be put in? 67.162.76.82 05:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's noteworthy if true. She's definitely the first chief of surgery at Hopkins, but I don't know if she is the first at any major hospital. If someone has sources, let's put that in the article, since it would definitely be noteworthy. Ante  lan  talk  01:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Towards/Toward edit
An anonymous editor changed "towards" to "toward", and I wanted to post here for posterity that both are equivalent, although their prevalence is different in different countries (toward is more common in the US). I'm not going to revert the change, but I wanted to note it. -- Ante lan  talk  20:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio issues
I had to remove substantial portions of this article, as they were copied verbatim from the Hopkins Medicine website, in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. I've also added an "expand" tag to the top of the article, as I feel that the article should contain more information than just history and ranking. --Hnsampat (talk) 15:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * agreed. info is needed on the usual hospital statistics: number of inpatient beds, number of operating suites,major diagnostic imaging equipment,numbers of outpatients seen per unit time, e.r. stats, etc.,etc.,etc.

Clean-Up
This page needs to be cleaned up. The text is choppy and parts of it don't flow well. The paragraphs are too small - often one sentence long. I'll work on this when I get a chance, and other interested people should feel free to do so. --Antelan 23:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This article kind of reads like a fundraising solicitation or brag rag for JHH. Fuzbaby (talk) 05:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Pediatrics edit
Only a small issue, but this article claims the hospital is the birthplace of pediatrics, while the pediatrics article itself makes no mention of John Hopkins in its 'history of pediatrics' section. One of the articles needs cleaning up, but I'm afraid I don't have the knowledge to do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.67.116 (talk) 10:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Not the birthplace of pediatrics--what were all those children's hospitals doing in Boston, Phila., Berlin and elsewhere before JHH was even founded? Nor urology (just how old is bladder-stone surgery?), nor endocrinology (diabetes has been studied seriously for centuries). Not cardiac surgery either. Neurosurgery, perhaps. Let's get some references that actually say what they're supposed to (the 2 for pediatrics are ads for the children's hospital and don't say anything about "birthplace of pediatrics") and then start making claims.RogerLustig (talk) 02:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

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Union Representation
The article does not discuss whether employees at John Hopkins are represented. I did a search and found these articles about one union. Would it be acceptable if I start discussing this using these sources from 2104:

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/johns-hopkins-hospital-union-reach-tentative-contract-deal/26840290

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2014/06/19/johns-hopkins-wages-compare-poorly-to-other-top-u.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2014/06/18/johns-hopkins-workers-to-strike-june-27-unless.html

I am also interested in other citations that people could find. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeremiahJohnson (talk • contribs) 03:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

pneumoconiosis B-reader program controversy.
Johns Hopkins suspended its pneumoconiosis B-reader program on November 1, 2013, after a series of stories by The Center for Public Integrity (in cooperation with ABC News) revealed that Dr. Paul Wheeler, head of the Hopkins unit that interprets X-rays in black lung cases, didn't find a single case of severe black lung among the more than 1500 cases in which he offered an opinion (source). More criticism of Wheeler's work can be found here.

On June 2, 2014, the Office of Workers' Compensation Programs (OWCP) issued BLBA Bulletin 14-09, "Weighing Chest X-ray Evidence that Includes a Negative Reading by Dr. Paul Wheeler," that instructed Division of Coal Mine Workers' Compensation (DCMWC) district offices not to credit negative chest x-ray readings for pneumoconiosis performed by Dr. Paul S. Wheeler of Johns Hopkins University Hospital in the absence of persuasive evidence rehabilitating his negative readings (source).

Johns Hopkins Medicine later announced the termination of the program (source).

Seems relevant for an article that uses words like "widely regarded as one of the world's greatest hospitals" in the lead. Prevalence 01:16, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Acknowledge Mary Elizabeth Garrett's role in opening/influencing the hospital and medical school
Mary Elizabeth Garrett provided essential support for opening JHH and the SOM, and her stipulations regarding graduate medical education and inclusion of women. These contributions should be prominently displayed, IMHO. &mdash; soupvector (talk) 00:05, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Hospital versus School of Medicine
I agree that the article as is conflates the history of the hospital with that of the school of medicine. I think of "Johns Hopkins Medicine" as more a "brand' for marketing  rather than an institution. There are still two entities: the University School of Medicine and the Hospital which have their own CEO equivalents, the Dean of the School of Medicine and the President of the Hospital, even the ID badges differ depending whether one is an employee of the Hospital or the University. I suggest not having a "Johns Hopkins Medicine" entry, except perhaps as a re-direct to entries for the hospital and school of medicine. Fmondimore 01:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that no article should exist for "Johns Hopkins Medicine." Instead, there should be an article for the following:
 * • Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions (probably a stub)
 * • Johns Hopkins Hospital
 * • Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
 * --Antelan 19:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

While the Hospital and Medical School are separate entities, there is and has always been a clear connection between the two and should be one as well in this article. I suggest having a section providing information on the inception of the two and their original connections, and how the connection has changed over time to what it is today. Proper, non-biased, sources would be needed to simply explain the history of the two to give the readers a clearer understanding of both the Hospital and the University School of Medicine. Zgoldst3 (talk) 15:49, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * JHM is one entity with its own governance structure, comprising elements of JHU SOM and JHH (plus additional key components), with some coverage here. &mdash; soupvector (talk) 20:19, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Dubious change in category
I don't understand the basis for this category change by. While there is a page called Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, this is a misnomer as illustrated in the first sentence of that lede, which spells out the proper name as "Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine" (the "School of Medicine" is a division of Johns Hopkins University). In addition, this is not a synonym for Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions, comprises the School of Medicine, the School of Nursing, and the School of Public Health. &mdash; soupvector (talk) 18:36, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that - a misunderstanding on my end. I've reverted the changes. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 18:42, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

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Infobox hospital
I took out the links on State and Country fields in the infobox, so that the link to List of hospitals in Maryland shows up. I also changed the Emergency to just "I", which brings up the link. Talk to G Moore 16:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Ear Nose and Throat
This is currently in three separate links to ear, nose, and throat, whereas the reader assumes that this should relate to the surgical sub-speciality of Ear, Nose and Throat or Otolaryngology. I feel this should be fixed to redirect to ENT/Otolaryngology rather than the three different body parts.

60.240.189.104 (talk) 05:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I came to this talk page to suggest the exact same thing, so I think that I'll just go ahead and change it.
 * Emerald (talk) 02:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)