Talk:Jojoba ester

Hydrolyzed jojoba ester
Any difference or should they be merged? - Taxman Talk 19:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

The materials are different. Jojoba Esters are the basis for manufacturing hydrolyzed (saponified) jojoba esters, and the two materials are very different. JE is a creamy wax, HJE a water-soluble sticky gel with different properties. Istvan 23:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, but in the first sentence it tells us "Jojoba esters are the hydrogenation or interesterification product of Jojoba oil". So can you more clearly tell us the difference and explain them in this article? Looking more carefully I can assume hydrolyzing and hydrogenating may be different, but not be sure without looking it up. - Taxman Talk 00:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hydrolyzing and hydrogenating are indeed very different: hydrolyzing is (in this specific case) splitting the molecule at its ester bond into an alcohol and a free acid by an aqueous process at elevated pH. hydrogenating is saturating double bonds by adding hydrogen atoms, leaving the molecule intact but without double-bonds, thus increasing the melting point.  They are spelled somewhat similarly but the reactions are as different as can be. IJEC (talk) 17:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Correct Name
The correct name of this class of compounds is "jojoba esters" and not the singular "jojoba ester" - the name has legal status: it is mandated by the CTFA (Cosmetics, Toiletries and Fragrance Association) to be included in the ingredients list on any cosmetic/personal care product which contains it. The singular "jojoba ester" is simply incorrect. The page should be renamed to its correct name "jojoba esters". IJEC (talk) 15:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Could some kind admin please move this article back to its proper name "Jojoba esters" (pl)? You will not find the term "Jojoba ester" (s) on the ingredients list of any consumer product - "Jojoba esters" is the legal name for this material. IJEC (talk) 17:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)