Talk:Joke theft

original research?
I'm inclined to put a prod template on this article for deletion, since it appears to be original research and has no references to back it up. I'll give the author a few days to add some references before doing so. Hatch68 22:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am working on this one. It isn't original research at all. I'm only using published sources. Anywhere you want to see a citation, you can help me by requesting one.Qabala 18:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like you're doing great so far. Hatch68 21:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I have just finished a ton of edits. Let me know if I need more citations and I will oblige.Tony Reed 01:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I really think this article needs to be expanded. It only covers stand-up comedy. There are other media where jokes are stolen. Any help would be appreciated. Tony Reed 23:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I guess I had to do it myself, but any more expansion of this article would be appreciated.Tony Reed 00:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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Para Thinking
Some of this isn't joke theivery but just parallel thinking, like if i think of a joke, there is aboslutly no reason that one out of the other 6+billion people in the world hasn't thought about it already, or will in the future. Especially when its observational humour.IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 13:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, like Eddie Murphy was the first person to do an impression of Cosby. How do you steal an impression? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.100 (talk) 08:31, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

There are certain exaggerations that Eddie Murphy was the first to use. You do realize that most impressions are caricatures, right? Tony Reed (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

References need updating
References 2, 10, 16, 19 and 21 are all dead.

I'd remove them myself, but I don't know how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanology (talk • contribs) 02:59, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge discussion
Much of both articles Hack (comedy) and Joke thievery is either duplicate or closely parallel content. There doesn't seem to be a clear basis for two separate articles. Please discuss at Talk:Hack (comedy). 12:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Good luck with that. I've been pushing for that for about a year now. Many people here insist on keeping the two separate. I was the original author of the Joke-Thievery article and the majority of the historical and sourced data in the Hacking artyicle. I, personally think they should be merged because joke-thievery falls completely under the definition of hacking in the Hacking article.Tony Reed (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Since these two articles have closely duplicated content, and that content originated at Joke thievery, I've boldly redirected Hack (comedy) to this page. Robofish (talk) 17:00, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

you may be interested
there's this blog

http://ntvox.blogspot.com/2008/02/luttazzis-plagiariezed-jokes.html

which has a video linked where a famous italian comedian has been found to copy hundreds of the most famous jokes by all famous english and american comedians (hicks, carlin, izzard, etc etc) which may be good material for this article.

i have links to mainstream newspapers' websites talking about this but they're in italian so i don't know if this makes sense 189.140.64.231 (talk) 14:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


 * ["Scum" slander. Comment deleted for BLP violation] Tony Reed (talk) 23:55, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


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2000s and 2010s section could use improvement
The 2000s and 2010s section contains poor grammar and formatting issues. In particular, content is merged or split across paragraphs multiple times throughout this section. Manic0892 (talk) 13:06, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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About Luttazzi's so-called "plagiarism case"
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I'm writing from Italy to help you understand what happened in 2010, when Mr. Luttazzi (who is one of the top satirist in Italy) was the target of a smear campaign. In 2010, just two months after one of his monologues was aired in which Mr. Luttazzi bashed both Mr. Berlusconi right wing politics and the inept political opposition by the left wing party (PD), someone put a video online with jokes by Luttazzi to prove his alleged "joke thieving", without telling that those jokes were part of a citational game done by Luttazzi for his fans, a game that was openly described by Luttazzi himself in his blog since 2003. Those citations were also a legal trick by Luttazzi to defend himself in defamation trials: he called it "the "Lenny Bruce trick", because Lenny Bruce hid jokes by Aristophanes in his monologues to defend himself in the obscenity trials put on against him. Background: In 2001, Mr. Luttazzi was banned by Mr. Berlusconi from national television because he talked about Mr.Berlusconi's links with the mob. Mr. Luttazzi was the host of a cult late night show called "Satyricon". Let's say he was the Italian David Letterman. Mr. Berlusconi, the Prime Minister, sued him for defamation, asking 40 billion lire (about 20 billion dollars) for compensation. After a trial that lasted 15 years (yes, 15 years!), recently Mr. Luttazzi won the case. It was not defamation at all: Mr. Luttazzi was right. BUT: since 2001, the few times Mr. Luttazzi got on tv, he was the target of some smear campaign: in December 2007 and June 2010. Mr. Luttazzi is a libertarian, a fierce defender of free speech and a wonderful comedian, he didn't cheat anyone, his citational game was openly described in his blog, but he still has many powerful enemies in Italy, and a lot of people who are against him for ideological reasons, as you can tell by the entries above. An interview by The Times (2009) tells everything about the background (English version at the bottom): http://temi.repubblica.it/micromega-online/luttazzi-io-al-confino-mediatico-nellitalia-di-berlusconi/ Here's a recent academic paper (2014) explaining why Luttazzi's citational jokes are new jokes, not "plagiarised" ones: http://www.cultusjournal.com/index.php/archive/16-issue-2014-v-7-transcreation-and-the-professions The so-called "plagiarism case" was put on to damage Luttazzi's reputation. That's why I think the entries on Wikipedia about the so-called "Luttazzi's plagiarism case" are part of the smear campaign against him. This is not NPOV at all, I guess. Last but not least, Mr. Luttazzi won ALL the trials, even the one accusing him of plagiarising Bill Hicks: this time, he got 1 million euros as compensation. Good for him.

Cheers 85.4.100.109 (talk) 06:42, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Citations #32 and #33 were deleted on their sites
The claims about amy schumer need to be backed by new sources, preferably articles and not videos from youtube and dailymotion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.242.200.33 (talk) 06:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

"Transcreation- the old switcheroo" is confusing and completely unnecessary
This entire section has very little to do with the topic. It's more about a specific series of court cases that include joke theft as one allegation, and it's far too long and rambling. It frankly feels like someone adamantly defending Luttazzi from allegations of joke theft that have since been removed from the rest of the article. Without this context, and especially given the disjointed way the section is written, I really don't see any reason this section should still be there. Jalphark (talk) 07:24, 3 July 2023 (UTC)