Talk:Jolene Marie Rotinsulu

Cleanup Needed: Jolene Marie Rotinsulu
This page seriously needs a cleanup. Numerous un-sourced content, inadequately cited details, or references that are inadmissible have been used in the development of its content. Grammar. And overall content and cohesiveness of the article.

Hopefully more editors could help clean this up. Tagging users: Bri, Rich Farmbrough, Tony1, Jjj1238. If you can, please help in making this page/article, Jolene Marie Rotinsulu, better.

Thanks.Migsmigss (talk) 23:26, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That was pretty awful; I did a bunch of deletion. The national award claim especially ought to be either cited or simply deleted. It's enough work for now; somebody else can go through and finish the WP:LASTNAME issues. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bri for the assistance. It really is quite messy. I'll find time to do some cleanup myself soon. Hope other editors could lend a hand, too. A bit busy with real life now, LOL. But thanks for the help. Appreciate it.Migsmigss (talk) 01:46, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Still pretty brassy: reads too much like a PR document. Tony (talk)  06:25, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Made some tweaks, there's Easter egg links to id: wiki that should maybe go. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 07:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC).


 * I am already updated some new actual sources, deleting id: wiki, correct grammar and make some summary for long words. But this biased Filipino User >>>talk keep on deleting my edits which is very rude! ''Martina Mae Diaz, 07:37, 8 November 2019 (UTC).

Martina Mae Diaz, this is a warning: You are welcome to contribute in the development of this article, but do not disrupt its improvement by reverting to old edits that contain numerous false information, or delete cleanup templates, or call contributing editors names, as well as pointing out their nationalities — as if nationalities are derogatory, and affect the improvement of this article. Any editor of any nationality can contribute, as long as the edits are sound, accompanied by the acceptable sources/references, and the information added are all verifiable and true.

To quote Martina Mae Diaz: "Vandalism by IP address User; User:Migsmigss detected from Philippenis country, Your edit doesnt make sense with the curent actual sources. Stop changing Indonesia public figure profiles."

It is not my duty, or any editor's duty for that matter, to explain to you and defend their nationality. Nationality has nothing to do with this discussion. Continue your persistent disruptive vandalism and false accusations, and I will have to escalate this with the admins, as well as your xenophobic remarks about editors' nationalities. Nationalities are neutral, they are neither an asset or a disadvantage in editing; the only asset editors can boast of is their knowledge of the truth of any and all information they add in an article, backed with legitimate sources and references. What matters is that edits are done professionally and truthfully, and that they are done so with the aim of improving this article.

Thanks.

Migsmigss (talk) 08:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Martina Mae Diaz: Unreasonable Edit and Deletion of Cleanup Templates
Hello, User:Martina Mae Diaz. Informing you that I undid your unreasonable edits on this article; do not remove cleanup templates. Contribute and improve the article, but do not remove templates. This article needs improvement on diction, grammar, and legitimacy of information and sources included. Continue to disrupt its improvement or delete information, and will tag you for persistent vandalism, as well as xenophobia - your unfounded accusations are baseless, and nationality of editors are not a factor in editing.

Thanks.
 * I proposed the article for deletion in the German WP. The 2016 Award is a fake. Someone inserted her name in the article 2016 Indonesian Movie Actor Awards afterwards. https://lifestyle.sindonews.com/read/1104744/158/daftar-nominasi-lengkap-indonesia-movie-actors-awards-2016-diumumkan-1461835052. And she won the 2nd place in the Indonesia Miss International competition, so her title is Miss International Environment. https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/catriona-gray-stuns-indonesian-president-widodo/ar-BBUHKwv?li=AAb280R&%2525252525253Bocid=DELLDHP. Regards from Germany, --Pumuckl456 (talk) 07:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

@User talk:Pumuckl456, this is what I'm talking about. A lot of the information in this article are misrepresentations, or downright false/fake. Another problem I've encountered are editors who persistently undo our edits just to retain these questionable and downright fake information. Again, Martina Mae Diaz, this is a warning: You are welcome to contribute in the development of this article, but do not disrupt its improvement by reverting to old edits that contain numerous false information, or delete cleanup templates, or call contributing editors names, as well as pointing out their nationalities — as if nationalities are derogatory, and affect the improvement of this article. Any editor of any nationality can contribute, as long as the edits are sound, accompanied by the acceptable sources/references, and the information added are all verifiable and true.

To quote Martina Mae Diaz: "Vandalism by IP address User; User:Migsmigss detected from Philippenis country, Your edit doesnt make sense with the curent actual sources. Stop changing Indonesia public figure profiles."

It is not my duty, or any editor's duty for that matter, to explain to you and defend their nationality. Nationality has nothing to do with this discussion. Continue your persistent disruptive vandalism and I will have to escalate this with the admins, as well as your xenophobic remarks about editors' nationalities. Nationalities are neutral, they are neither an asset or a disadvantage in editing; the only asset editors can boast of is their knowledge of the truth of any and all information they add in an article, backed with legitimate sources and references. What matters is that edits are done professionally and truthfully, and that they are done so with the aim of improving this article.

Thanks.

Migsmigss (talk) 07:43, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

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Bachelor's degree achieved?
The article contains the following sentence: Rotinsulu holds a bachelor degree from Academy of Art University and Institut Agama Kristen Negeri (IAKN) Manado. This is not substantiated by the sources cited!

In it says: Jolene merupakan mahasiswi Theologia Institut Agama Kristen Negeri Manado, dan Academy of Art University San Francisco. (in Google-Translater-English: Jolene is a Theology student at Institut Agama Kristen Negeri Manado, and Academy of Art University San Francisco). The document is no longer accessible. Can a Rotinsulu expert help? Regards from Fritzober (talk) 18:13, 20 November 2023 (UTC)