Talk:Jon Snow (character)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 09:40, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Grabbing for a review. Miyagawa (talk) 09:40, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Lead: The first paragraph could have a nice pattern to it - at the moment, you talk about the book, then the show, then the book again. If you added after the second book mention that the character is also a main character who has appeared in every season of the TV show then you'd have a nice back and forth flow between the book/show.
 * Could do with a line thrown in about his parentage, since you've got a section in the article which isn't summarised in the lead.
 * While you've got the plot from the books covered in the second paragraph, it would be worthwhile saying in the third paragraph that the TV series covers pretty much the same arc for the character, and then summarise where it leads on from the books. Although I hold my hands up, because when the next book comes out, you might as well come back and move that information back into the second paragraph. But since you've got a couple more books and a couple more seasons over which to summarise this, you'll need to keep on top of it anyway.
 * Overview: I'm not really seeing the difference between this section and Description - I think you can just remove the Overview subsection heading as the two sections cover the same ground and flow naturally into each other. It'll also stop the first paragraph of Overview from seeming like a repeat of similar information from the Description section.
 * Has Martin said anything about his influences when creating Jon? Or has anyone else made any comparisons between Jon and other characters (either real life or fictional)?
 * The David Orr quotes currently in Description and Overview can be combined to the same location. There's no reason to have some praise in one paragraph, and then very similar praise in the other. If you're using it to cite the point of view status mentioned in Overview, then it can still be used to cite that. It'd then be fine to repeat his name and the NYT times when it then appears in the Parentage section.
 * Link The Winds of Winter regarding the book
 * TV adaptation: I've move to the quote about the Emmy nomination down to the Recognition and awards section
 * Does anything need to be said about the actor being retained from the original pilot?
 * Recognition and awards: No need to specify the Gold Derby Awards 2016, as it's already stated in a previous column. Also link to the Gold Derby TV Awards. The article is a stub, but it exists.
 * Cite #6, #46 + #47 - can full publisher and ISBN information be added, similar to cite #30
 * Cite #73: Should be MTV News UK


 * That's everything. A quite interesting read. Miyagawa (talk) 10:50, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll get on these.— TAnthonyTalk 15:47, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I have addressed your comments, and also added several items bolstering notability, etc. I didn't think it was notable that Harington was retained from the pilot because only two other actors were recast. I also have been unable to find anything about Martin's creative influences for the character, or comparisons with other characters/figures. I did a lot of work overhauling this article last year and never came across anything in my research, but it's an interesting question that I will continue to look into.— TAnthonyTalk 01:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem - I had to ask to make sure that the board aspect of the coverage was met. I've made one small tinker with a template, and based on the edits you've made I'm now happy that this meets the Good Article criteria. Therefore I am promoting it as such. Miyagawa (talk) 08:30, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Broad too. I'm having one of those days. Miyagawa (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2016 (UTC)