Talk:Jonathan Cheechoo

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The article provided states that Cheechoo was 12 when he wrote the Sharks paper. He couldn't have been written the paper in 4th grade, considering that the Sharks didn't even exist at that time. --Madchester 17:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, they were in existance at that time. If Cheechoo was 12 years old at the time, that would have been in 1992. San Jose came into the NHL in 1991. The fourth grade thing has no mention on his player bio, but the essay is in fact real. Tachyon01 20:25, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Exactly, if he was in 4th grade, then it would have been around 88-89, which was well before the Sharks came into existence. --Madchester 19:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Cheechoo Essay
Cheechoo himself says he wrote the essay in grade 4. Maybe the Canadian system is different or he was held back a grade(s).

The Canadian system isn't that different. In Ontario, a 12 year old should normally be in grade 6 or 7. Of course, life on a reserve is a bit different, he may have started late or, as you suggest, been held back a grade. Kraigus 20:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed sentences
I removed the following from the article:
 *  During the 2006 NHL Playoffs, Cheechoo would make several unsportsmanlike plays. In Game 4 versus the Edmonton Oilers in Edmonton, Cheechoo was hit by Chris Pronger late in the second period. He responded by elbowing Pronger in the throat later that shift. Throughout the series, Cheechoo was seen taking advantage of players smaller in stature than himself. This was opitimized by an incident in Game 4 when he grabbed hold of, and subseqently ran skilled Oilers forward Ales Hemsky from behind, headfirst into the boards.

The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader must be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, because Wikipedia does not publish original thought or original research. If someone finds a reliable source about these incidents, feel free to add information about these incidents to the article. --Muéro 03:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I wrote the blog post that had been used as a citation for Cheechoo's hit on Hemsky. While I remember the hit well, and I'm flattered to have been used as a source, I agree - it didn't happen just because I said it did.  It's also "epitomized", not "optimized", original writer of that paragraph should take note in case you want to include it again in some edited form.  Kraigus 21:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I removed a line from the article stating that the Sens lost 7 to 4 when Cheechoo was recalled. I believed it to add bias to the article as Cheechoo didn't really make an impact on that game either way. -Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.11.136 (talk) 05:03, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Religion
Am i the only hockey fan that finds it a little odd that someone's faith, if it's a major religion or whatever, is placed prominently; that is, in the first paragraph that only has five sentences? I mean, here's a test: Would you find it a little out of place for an Maurice Richard Trophy winner named James Smith (just making up a name here)....to have a first paragraph with three sentences that said "James Smith and his father are agnostics and have belief in the good done by science"? Would seem a little odd, wouldn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.45.33 (talk) 20:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess, to clarify, it's certainly 100% okay to have a person's faith there in their bio (for example, "James Smith and his father are believers in the Flying Spaghetti Monster")....but by itself it is odd. What would help the article out is, after the comment about being 'born again', there was a sentence clause that said something like "and they participate in various charities in the San Jose area". Since i don't know Cheechoo or even live in the San Jose area, it is far better for a fan of Cheechoo that knows about him well.... to include a verifiable, Footnote citation of an action that goes along with such beliefs. For instance "James Smith, along with his father are long-term believers in The Flying Spaghetti Monster, and, as such, serve spaghetti to the poor and hungry during offseason." (and then have a footnote to verify that). Otherwise, it is a belief stuck there by itself, like "James Smith believes that 2020 will be a La Niña year." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.45.33 (talk) 20:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Aboriginal Athlete and Citations
A few points that I think could improve the article.

1) Is there anything missing that could be added? As of now, there is currently no explicit information regarding Jonathan Cheechoo's status as an aboriginal Canadian. There is information available that can be taken from reliable sources that do say that he is an aboriginal Canadian. Because this information is readily available, I believe that this information could be added in order to bring more awareness of aboriginal athletes. Beyond this, I believe that some information regarding Jonathan's youth, when he lived in a tribe should be included in order to give aboriginal youth a role model.

2) Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable source? Currently, on this page, there is a number of different statements that currently have no citations to give them validity. In order to enhance the article, the information that has been provided in the first two sections (Playing Career, and Records) should be given citations in order to validate them. However, the information that is cited has been taken from reliable sources such as ESPN, CBC, and NHL.com.

3) Check a few citations. Do the links work? Is there any close paraphrasing or plagiarism in the article? The article links at the bottom have all been checked and most are still are directed to the relevant web pages. The link in the first, third, and fifth citations are now directed towards web pages that do not exist anymore. Because of this, there is a need to find a new source in order to verify the information in the article. There is also some very close paraphrasing found in the article where some of the information that was found from the fourth citation was flipped around to form a new sentence in the article. Jakeouellette (talk) 18:17, 10 March 2017 (UTC)