Talk:Josabeth Sjöberg

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I've recently got an original copy of Gustaf Näsström's 1954 book Mamsell Josabeth Sjöberg, but it's published by Robert Ditzinger, not Esselte; and in the Nationall Library's Libris database and on many antiquarian web-sites, Norstedts is given as the publisher; I understand that the Ditzinger edition is a bit special, it says it's celebrating 100 years in Stockholm: but were there really three editions that same year?


 * Jag har nyligen fått ett originalex. av Gustaf Näsströms 1954 bok Mamsell Josabeth Sjöberg, men förlaget är inte Esselte, utan Robert Ditzinger: och i KBs Libris databas och en massa ex på antikvariat står det Norstedt; jag kan förstå att Ditzingers var lite speciell, det står att det är för at fira 100 år i Stockholm, men fanns det verkligen tre olika utgåvor samma år?!

Can someone see why the syntax for linking to another language-Wikipedia doesn't work properly, it did in the other place I used the same thing, the 'sv' here shouldn't be visible, should it? sv:Fröken Is it because there's an 'ö' in there? David Kettlewell (talk) 12:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


 * According to Nationalecyklopedin, Norstedts was owned from 1930 by Sveriges Litografiska Tryckerier, which (according to sv:Esselte) changed its name in 1970 to Esselte. So Esselte couldn't have published anything in 1954 under that name


 * - except that it also says "Esselte ... ett namn som tidigare använts för ett dotterföretag i gruppen" David Kettlewell (talk) 11:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * but if it was published by Norstedts it was possibly printed by what was then still SLT.


 * on the last page it says "Denna bok är tryck i offset hos Esselte Aktiebolag i Stockholm år 1954 på 150 grams träfritt offsetpapper. Typografi: Bertil Kumlien" - no indication that it might be a facsimile


 * At some later point Esselte started publishing under the Esselte name as well, but I am not sure when that happened (after they sold Norstedts?), and it is proably not relevant in this case.


 * no indeed, there's no indication here that Esselte were anything more than the printers


 * Ditzingers wasn't an actual publisher but a fabric wholesaler and retailer. (I think it went bankrupt a few years ago, but must have been around for a century and a half at that point. It was a well-know business in Stockholm and Sweden. I am surprised that I can't find any half-decent sources on the web, but I am pretty sure good printed sources could be found.)


 * "konskurs avslutad 091112"


 * I can imagine that Sjöberg's pictures with all their detailed patterns were attractive to a company that dealt with interior decoration.


 * Is the Ditzinger edition special in any way? Limited, numbered edition? Special paper or expensive binding or something like that? Have you checked all the fine print both in the front and back of the book? I would guess that it was licensed by Norstedts in some way and sent out by Ditzingers as a gift to shareholders or major customers. --Hegvald (talk) 14:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not numbered, no mention of any special edition, it's just a very nice edition: the publishing history (back of title page) says "Denna utgåva ... har föranstaltats av AB Robert Ditzinger, som på detta sätt inför sitt hundraårsjubileum velat frambära en hyllning till en stad, där firman varit verksam alltsedan den grundades 1 mars 1854"; I get the point that Ditzingers weren't publishers as their prime task, but for me the publisher is the one who sees the potential to make a work publicly available, puts up the money, orders the printing, distributes the copies - even if they only did this for one book, and it was give to shareholders, Diztingers were still the publisher of the copy I have, Norstedts as distinct from SLT as such isn't mentioned anywhere. I've asked Gustaf Näsström's daughter Karin, who gave me the book, and I will have to get hold of a 'Norstedt' copy and compare them. Thanks for responding! ;-) David Kettlewell (talk) 11:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)