Talk:Joseph E. Johnston

Inquiry
Ok where would one find out about his personal life who he was married to... etc.... if this is who my family thinks it is he married one... woman.... Mary Miles/Marks/Johnston... in Richland County South Carolina... and would love geno, info on this man... for the extended family of this brave... man.... jeannebuck333@bellsouth.net Margaret Jeann`e Delmonego/Smith. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.39.36 (talk • contribs)
 * I added who he married, which was not Mary Miles/Marks plange 03:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Age?
I hate to say it, but Johnston's age was an issue. He was certainly the most experienced Army Commander - North or South - of the early part of that war....but what impact did his age have? This may be an overall issue to the result of the war... Engr105th 07:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Born in 1807, he was the same age as Robert E.Lee, and four years younger than the other Johnston (Sidney) whose death in action was rated as the biggest blow to the Confederacy. 81.129.150.171 (talk) 08:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Family
His brother Charles Clement Johnston also served as a U.S. Representative, and his nephew John Warfield Johnston was a United States Senator; both represented Virginia. This line is both in early life and postbellum life. —--Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.10.186.150 (talk) 18:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Official Pardon
Under what terms was he pardoned by the postwar Government? President Andrew Johnson rated US Army Generals who resigned to join the Confederates as the ones least deserving of a pardon. 86.169.146.169 (talk) 12:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I see no reference to him being pardoned in the article. could you point it out?--Jojhutton (talk) 13:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Photo of RE Lee and "ASJohnston"
This picture is mislabeled at its source. It is correctly labeled within the article, but I do no see how I am to address the source material directly. "ASJohnston" refers to Albert Sidney Johnston, CSA general who died on the field of Shiloh in 1862. Since this picture is dated 1869, and the man with Lee looks much like Joe E. Johnston (though the beard he has is fuller than what he is more typically known as having), the figure in question must in fact be Joe Johnston and not Albert Sidney Johnston. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.175.91.86 (talk) 19:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Corrected some time ago. Caption is now the right one. I suggest that this item can be removed from the Talk page. Valetude (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Cold weather and pneumonia
It's a nice story to say he got pneumonia from not putting on his hat, but come on, this is the 21st century. Cold weather doesn't cause colds, germs do. His death from pneumonia is almost certainly unrelated to his not putting on a hat (and for that matter, W. H. Harrison didn't die of pneumonia because he talked too long outside without a coat, but the article on him reflects that). Why can't you read anything about Johnston and Sherman without this old superstition? Wldcat (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The article does not say that he got pneumonia from not putting on his hat. It says that he caught a cold that day which later developed into pneumonia from which he died. This is what reliable sources state.


 * (As an aside) Although being foolhardy and leaving off your coat or hat in cold or wet weather does not cause you to catch the germs which cause sickness, it may reduce your immune system's ability enough so that you are less likely to be able to stave it off. Stress factors most certainly affect the immune system. Please read this article. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  03:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but the physicians swear up and down you can't get a cold (or pneumonia) from exposure to wet and cold. Colds are caused by viruses and pneumonia generally by bacteria. However, I think it possible that one's immune system could be weakened to the point where one is more susceptible to such diseases. I agree with Wldcat, though, that the idea that the cold and wet itself being the direct cause of his illnesses does not hold up to modern science. Back then, the two were linked ("Put your coat on or you'll catch your death of cold!"). Could be that in such conditions one would most likely be indoors and more likely to breathe in "germs" as there would be less ventilation in order to conserve precious heat, and possibly many people breathing in such closed-in conditions.

I wonder if common colds and pneumonia peak in the winter like the way polio did in the summer? There again, I often get colds in the summer. But, I live where it's hot and humid so am closed in much of the time with many other people due to air conditioning so am more likely to breathe in their respiratory viruses, that they are probably immune to, BTW. so show no symptoms. RRskaReb talk 03:03, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

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Lead is too long
The Lead is very long, especially for a biographical article. Should be reduced to about four paragraphs, per Wiki MOS.Parkwells (talk) 17:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

I agree. The fourth paragraph contains too much detail and should be moved further down the article where his Civil War experiences are covered. Also, the part of how he died is already covered at the end of the article. I'll see what I can do... RRskaReb talk 03:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I truncated the fourth paragraph in the intro, including a continuation of his major commands to maintain the flow established in the preceding paragraph. I moved the information about the controversy over his handling of the Vicksburg campaign down to that section in the main article, and included some of the possible factors which lead to this defeat. Moved the source (Wasiak) footnoting here also. RRskaReb talk 04:01, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * For anyone using the admin-colorizing script, please note that despite the similarities of the background on their sig, RRekaReb is not an admin. They refuse to change the color. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:16, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Excuse me for my quick reaction. When I see unexplained blanking I generally revert. It appeared to me that the article was being "cleansed" of sourced negative assertions. In this case, I was premature. I will try to do better. Thanks for your contributions. BusterD (talk) 13:43, 30 August 2019 (UTC)