Talk:Joseph Edward Prince

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Frank, Thanks for your prompt response. Joe Prince has a lifetime of news clips covering his track career from Palo Alto to Eastern Europe. A couple of years ago he had the front cover of the Arizona daily Star because he was considered "notable" by Tommie Smith, one of the world's best known track athletes as well as Joe's coach. As for the documentary,very few people warrant that type of attention so we will have to agree to disagree on that one. Wikipedia standards are interesting to me as they do seem arbitrary at best. Are you really a better judge of notable than any number of large market newspapers? Joe is often invited to speak to school audiences about his career and disabilities. I was having lunch with him recently when a woman recognized him and asked him to speak at the next local Martin Luther King Day ceremonies. At a high school track event a young NFL player recognized him, walked over and described him as a "legend" in the Bay Area track community. We were at Best Buy when the young sales guy said " I know you, my father has talked about you." He was featured on the 700 Club and described as an "inspiration." Please consider dropping your objections to this article. I understand that a person cannot make themselves notable, but can two people editing Wikipedia truly determine that a person is not? Seems like an odd arrangement to me

My "objections" to this article are simply that I don't see that it meets any criteria for inclusion. If you can show otherwise, please improve it. Note that it is currently just listed as a WP:PROD deletion; if you object, you can simply remove that. The next step will be WP:AFD, which will generate a community discussion to determine whether or not the subject is notable enough for conclusion. It certainly isn't a unilateral decision, and I've already undeleted it at your request. Frank |  talk  04:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Many people from Joe's past are listed with very brief articles with little information. I feel that you have created an obstacle for this article that others have not had to endure. The "community " should not have to come into play at this stage of the process. Joe will be at the computer tomorrow, we will provide a list of press and appearances that he has made. The goal is to convince you that you may have been to hasty in taking the actions that you did. As I stated in my earlier post many journalists have found Joe Prince "notable" enough for inclusion in their publications, and a very small percentage of people are made the subject of a documentary film. Thanks again for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deedee485 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I have done the wikification on Joseph E Prince. This adds those blue links to other articles and puts the subject in bold. I also added some categories. Please can you find some more references that show that other people have written about this man. That will prove the WP:notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:12, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your help on this page. Here are some more feature articles about Joe Prince Arizona Daily Star Feb. 21, 2004 ( front page) Fresno Bee Feb. 27, 1975 ( picked up by associated press) East Valley Magazine Feb. 1984 ( front cover) Phoenix Magazine June 1984 IAM ( Belgrade newspaper) July 18, 1978 ( front page) NBC KPNX news feature 1983 ( picked up by NBC network aired nationally) 700 Club Dec. 23, 1983( aired nationally) deedee485Deedee485 (talk) 22:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC) deedee485Deedee485 (talk) 22:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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