Talk:Joseph P. Kennedy Jr./Archive 1

Untitled
I don't feel sufficiently well informed to add to this entry but I read elsewhere that the explosive was thought to have detonated when the camera/transmitter in Kennedy's plane was powered up for monitoring by the remote controlling plane.

Disappeared people?
Also, should this really be in the "disappeared people"? category? Joseph Kennedy's exact fate is well-documented--he perished in the explosion--the article agrees with this. Even the (approximate) location of the explosion is known. He didn't disappear, per se.


 * I agree. I removed him from that category. Ydorb 21:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Birthday
The JFK library lists his birthday as July 25, but the Joseph P Kennedy Foundation lists it as July 28. Ydorb 20:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I pointed this out to the JFK Library. An archivist replied via e-mail stating that the birth record they had listed his birth date as July 25.  The Joseph P Kennedy Foundation web site has now been corrected. A number of web sites still have his birthday listed incorrectly as July 28. Ydorb 21:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 11:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo
I'd imagine that this photo from the JFK Library would be okay to use: http://www.jfklibrary.org/NR/rdonlyres/C0F9807A-A0F4-44A5-911B-ADEF26ABA785/21857/365E71EC577E49FB8E5EB28F072A9F24.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.38.12 (talk) 11:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Disappeared people?
Also, should this really be in the "disappeared people"? category? Joseph Kennedy's exact fate is well-documented--he perished in the explosion--the article agrees with this. Even the (approximate) location of the explosion is known. He didn't disappear, per se.


 * I agree. I removed him from that category. Ydorb 21:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 11:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Photo
I'd imagine that this photo from the JFK Library would be okay to use: http://www.jfklibrary.org/NR/rdonlyres/C0F9807A-A0F4-44A5-911B-ADEF26ABA785/21857/365E71EC577E49FB8E5EB28F072A9F24.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.38.12 (talk) 11:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Birthday
The JFK library lists his birthday as July 25, but the Joseph P Kennedy Foundation lists it as July 28. Ydorb 20:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I pointed this out to the JFK Library. An archivist replied via e-mail stating that the birth record they had listed his birth date as July 25.  The Joseph P Kennedy Foundation web site has now been corrected. A number of web sites still have his birthday listed incorrectly as July 28. Ydorb 21:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This article (on October 4, 2009) had Kennedy's birthday incorrectly listed as July 28. I changed it to July 25, in accordance with the above two posts.  Thank you.   (64.252.139.2 (talk) 15:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC))

Suspect link
One link at the bottom, http://www.blythweb.co.uk/blythburgh/kennedy1.htm comes up as "dangerous or suspect" by Trend Titanium's automatic evaluation. Rengewwj (talk) 14:13, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Questionable move
So far as I know, Joe Jr. has always, during life and posthumously, been known as Joe Kennedy, Jr. rather than "Joseph P. Kennedy II". As there is no title, US naming conventions are somewhat unpredictable, viz. Joe II taking that Roman numeral instead of "Joe III". Here, for example, is the JFK Presidential Library: Jr. Here is the US Navy ship bearing his name: Jr. What source was used to designate "Joseph P. Kennedy II" as his official name? --Dhartung | Talk 00:02, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Combining the information on other posts regarding the Kennedy family in Wikipedia, Joseph Patrick Kennedy, Jr. is the uncle of Joseph Patrick Kennedy II. Joseph Patrick Kennedy II, a son of Robert F. Kennedy, was purportedly named for his uncle and apparently the use of "Jr." and then "II" instead of "III" in the subsequent generation was purposeful. I went looking for info on this after a conversation with one of my sons who is a fellow politics and policy junky and a political science graduate regarding the name of Joseph P. Kennedy III, son of II, who recently announced his candidacy for Congress. JohnR1957 (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Colonel
Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr.'s occupation is listed as "Colonel". There is no U.S. Navy rank of Colonel and no occupation of Colonel as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.89.3 (talk) 04:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Explosion
I don't feel sufficiently well informed to add to this entry but I read elsewhere that the explosive was thought to have detonated when the camera/transmitter in Kennedy's plane was powered up for monitoring by the remote controlling plane.

"Some of the crewmen" is an odd phrase when the Mosquito only carried two. Drg40 (talk) 21:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Autochthony writes: Drg40's point struck me too. "Some suggestions exist that at least one injury occurred to a Mosquito crewman" may be a somewhat downbeat, but accurate, replacement. Autochthony wrote - 2015z 6.8.10. 86.148.177.1 (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I added detailed documentation/quotes for the explosion drawn from Air Force Historical Research Agency files. The Mosquito's crew and fate are well-known. There is no record of Col. Roosevelt being in the air, although he could have been in an untasked nearby aircraft. His story of flying thru the fireball dates from interview w. Hank Searls in 1968 (see his book). Olsen, who interviewed participants, does not mention him. Elliott was later known for taking credit for events experienced by pilots under his command. Also, the canard that the mission was kept secret for many years is refuted by detailed newspaper coverage October 1945.Archivist2 (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it was the news of his death that was kept from his parents for some time, because the whole Aphrodite operation was so secret. Valetude (talk) 15:01, 12 November 2014 (UTC)