Talk:Joseph Raz

Too hagiographic
The Biography section reads as rather too hagiographic: "Raz studied at Balliol College, Oxford and was awarded the DPhil in 1967 by the shortest route possible, skipping the usual sequence of BCL, MPhil and then the DPhil.

He was appointed Fellow at Balliol. Raz's presence has now made it a magnet for legal scholars."

Rather than revising it myself, I encourage others to comment. But I would observe that it was not at all unusual, at that time, to go straight from BA (the standard undergraduate degree in law, or any other discipline) straight to a DPhil. Rather than being precocious, I would suggest that graduating in 1967 (at 28) is actually unusally late for that time. Secondly, the reference to Raz's presence being a magnet for legal scholars ignores the "magnetic" attraction of other fellows there.Ncox 18:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Aren't those principles Fuller's? I think the author has got Fuller and Raz confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.158.201.11 (talk) 16:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I've removed the principles. Saccerzd (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The material in the earlier part of his bio needs to be cleaned up for repetition (the anecdote of meeting Hart is mentioned twice) and general clarity. Anthony Mohen (talk) 05:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

He isn't a visiting professor at Columbia - he is listed under "Full Time Faculty". Of course, he does spend part of the year at Oxford; but that doesn't make him a visitor at Columbia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.55.29 (talk) 16:29, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I've made a few changes which I think clarify. Raz didn't go straight from BA to DPhil. As his personal page and the article state: born in 1939, he was MJur summa cum laude in 1963, then DPhil in 1967 - these dates seem to me to lie within ordinary ranges and I think that this sequence, while excellent, would not be extraordinary. I took out the Balliol "magnet" bit, since in any case Raz is now based at Columbia. Discussion of his ideas needs very much more. Can anyone identify who are his now prominent pupils? --Wikiain (talk) 01:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

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