Talk:Joseph Woelfl

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Without looking at the article history, I'd have a tough time believing this article is based "not too much" on the EB original. Willi Gers07 (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Concerto opus 64, anyone?

 * Piano Concerto No. 7 op. 64?url http://138.251.116.3/record=b1416091~S5 (Saulcat Permanent Link) Schissel | Sound the Note! 23:53, 19 December 2010 (UTC) (note: British Library Holdings also mention the same work, but no permanent link unfortunately. in the latter and possibly the former case- will have to check- the library has only an arrangement, not the score or the original parts.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:40, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Grand duo
The one performance I attended of the grand duo opus 31 suggested an (optional? I'll check if the score is at IMSLP or elsewhere I have easy access to) percussion part manipulated by the cellist, I think, in the coda to the finale, making it a work for three instruments and two players (and somewhat humorous in effect - though I should add well done! :) ) Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Did Beethoven really win that duel?
"Beethoven however bested Woelfl in a piano 'duel' at the house of Count Wetzlar in 1799, after which Woelfl's local popularity waned." I have seen this written, but the only first-hand account that I know of says otherwise. A 1799 number of the Allgemeinen Musikalischen Zeitung (Leipzig) has this passage:

"After we have first featured the ladies, as we should, let us discuss the gentlemen. Among these, Beethoven and Wölfl create the most excitement. Opinions as to the advantages of the one over the other are divided here. However, it appears as if the larger party is tending towards the latter."

This is followed by some detail. Beethoven wins in free improvisation (per the author) and is second in his experience only to Mozart. Wölfl on the other hand "has at his disposal a thorough musical learnedness and true dignity in composition. He performs movements that appear nearly impossible to execute with a lightness, precision, and distinctness that is truly amazing... That Wölfl's unassuming and pleasing behavior gains over Beethoven with his sometimes haughty manner is very natural." Opus131 (talk) 05:22, 24 February 2014 (UTC)