Talk:Joseph ibn Naghrela

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has been merged--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:46, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Unbalanced
Part of this article seems unbalanced. The Jewish encyclopedia is mentioned as a source. According to that encyclopedia this man was nothing short of a super-duper-king. This article does not mention how his people rated their ruler. Since the slaughtered him I think his qualities might be a bit overstated. EdBever (talk) 13:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I am aware that I am treading into some sensitive issues here, casualty figures in massacres are often a minefield, as has arisen with some other Wikipedia articles. Can we be sure that casualty figures were quite on the scale claimed? I note that Naghrela's wife and son did escape to a neighbouring town. I also note that this article relies on very dated sources (a problem with some other articles). The references are disorganised and I could not always follow them. PatGallacher (talk) 11:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

A more recent source, the 1971 Encyclopedia Judaica, which is available online, states: "Samuel was succeeded by his son *Joseph ha-Nagid, whose pride and ambition aroused the enmity of certain Muslims who assassinated him in 1066. Inspired by fanatics, Muslims then attacked Granada Jewry and many survivors moved to other towns, particularly Lucena. The Granada massacre marked the first persecution of Jews in Muslim Spain." This does make the more extreme claims in earlier sources. While we are at it, I suggest we merge this with the article on the 1066 pogrom. PatGallacher (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2009 (UTC)