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COI/UDP templates
After reading this article (requires a subscription or viewing in incognito mode), I have added COI and UDP templates to the article pending some sort of cleanup.--SamHolt6 (talk) 14:19, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * To elaborate, the article I cited about quotes members of Shapiro's staff stating they edit and update this article.--SamHolt6 (talk) 17:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)


 * And I can't read it because EU. If you can, put it in a mentioned-by-mediaorg-template with a nice quote here on the talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:54, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I seem to have found a loophole... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * just in case I have quoted part of the article below. I have omitted names out of respect for WP:OUTING.

"A spokesman for the attorney general said it’s part of the digital communications director’s job responsibilities to write those kinds of nice things about his boss. “The digital work is a core function of the digital director’s job. We stand by it,” the spokesman,———, said. —— said the staffer, ———, had help from a deputy press secretary and that their work was approved by Shapiro’s deputy chief of staff, ———."


 * , I re-read both articles, and neither mention username of editors, so linking them should be fine OUTING-wise. But I still think not being allowed to cite WSJ at Tom Cable was just stupid. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:35, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * BTW, I thought it deserved a mention here as well. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:38, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

County Commissioner in infobox
Bringing this to talk page. He was the Commissioner of one of PA's largest counties. Notable gig and should be listed in infobox. I mean, he even left his role as a State Rep (which is listed) for that gig. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 14:04, 26 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Does the board of commissioners have its own page?  KidAd  •  SPEAK  15:22, 26 October 2021 (UTC)


 * No, but it's a position that received more than 300,000 votes. Is there any policy that says this gig is not notable enough to be listed in the infobox? If not, then you're just arbitrarily applying a policy. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 18:08, 26 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Interesting. I don’t remember reading a policy about positions being notable if they “… received more than 300,000 votes,” whatever that means. If Shapiro had only served on a county commission, he wouldn’t meet WP:NPOL. There’s your policy. KidAd  •  SPEAK  15:53, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Multiple things. It literally says you meet notability if you have held "state/province–wide office." Montgomery County is equivalent to a province. Additionally, it is still a position he has held, although most of his notability from being the AG. He is a notable figure and this is an office he has held. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You seem to misunderstand the definition of "province." Since we don't have them in the United States, it doesn't matter much, but a "province" is equivalent to a state, not a county. That's why all members of state legislatures pass WP:NPOL, while members of county boards/commissions/councils do not. KidAd  •  SPEAK  02:20, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's besides the point. What's the problem with listing this in the infobox? He's a notable figure and he held this elected position. It makes no chronological sense to list two of his positions while not taking into account of which he has held. There's an entire section of this article dedicated to such a position, too, because it's part of why he is notable and his political career. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 16:56, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It will not be included in the infobox because it is not a notable position. His other positions will be included in the infobox because they are notable. Very simple really. KidAd  •  SPEAK  02:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The position actually has a subpage at Montgomery County, Pennsylvania#Government]] where the Board is discussed in a prevalent spot. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 16:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * What's your point? "Sub-page" or no "sub-page," the position still doesn't meet WP:NPOL. KidAd  •  SPEAK
 * That's a criteria used to determine whether a figure is notable. Shapiro is already notable and entitled to a page. The Montgomery County position he has held (which was in between two other agreed notable gigs) is missing, but a subpage of the position is included under the Montco page. The position of Commissioner is already prominently mentioned and there is no reason it should not be included in infobox given that he is already a notable person. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 22:02, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * , Which policy states that a position with a "sub-page" is a criteria used to determine whether a figure is notable? KidAd  •  SPEAK  20:41, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:NPOL is for notability, but it is well-established that Shapiro is notable because of being AG and a State Rep. The Montgomery County Commissioner is a position that is mentioned in the Montgomery County, PA article. It is covered in a subpage. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 01:21, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Addition to lead
I think it’s important to add that he is a “Conservative Jew” to the lead as it is defining characteristic. Thank you. Richinstead (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello? Is anyone here?!?
Looking to make edits. Richinstead (talk) 21:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Pro-abortion stance
I think it’s important to add that he is pro-abortion (link to: “Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by removal or expulsion of an embryo or fetus.”) given the importance that plays in his election bid and how visitors will be interested in knowing that about him. Thanks!

Here’s one source of many https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2022-05-17/pennsylvania-kansas-governors-races-abortion-roe-wade?_amp=true Richinstead (talk) 16:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone home? Richinstead (talk) 04:05, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * His abortion policies are already mentioned in detail under the gubernatorial campaign section. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 14:41, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Regarding a recent edit
Why does the article say that Shapiro defeated Mastriano in the 2022 governor race before the election is over? 2606:9400:919F:FFD0:E05C:2D6C:7785:1CEA (talk) 04:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2022
At the second time Rep. Fox is mentioned, it says he is a Republic. It's an error, he's a Republican. Mosheperets (talk) 15:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Prolog (talk) 15:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2022
The graphic displaying Shapiro's win over Mastriano in the governor race has the following caption: "Shapiro defeated by Mastriano in the 2022 gubernatorial election by more than 14%" The caption should be changed to "Shapiro defeated Mastriano in the 2022 gubernatorial election by more than 14%" (Removing the first "by", in order to be grammatically correct in the context of Shapiro winning the election) The Cheadle (talk) 06:02, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Prolog (talk) 08:13, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Odd inclusion in Results sub-section
Please explain the inclusion of a comment on four counties won by Shapiro based on their previous net favor for Trump in the 2020 presidential election. This is a gubernatorial election, not a presidential election, with no overlap between candidates, nor did President Trump endorse Shapiro. I fail to see the relevance, as you could just as feasibly make the same comment regarding any historical presidential election. Either a reliable source illustrating why it is notable, or a similar project article with a similar comment, would also be helpful. GabberFlasted (talk) 16:30, 15 November 2022 (UTC)


 * This emphasizes the extent to which Shapiro won over Mastriano. Particularly because Mastriano had Trump's endorsement. This is the first election since 2020. Wording could also be changed to Shapiro carried three counties he did not win in 2020 AG race. But both show the extent to which Shapiro won. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * This still boils down to synthesis or OR without something showing why its notable, all I'm getting is that you say its notable. The results %s show enough of the margin, without focusing on an entirely different presidential election. GabberFlasted (talk) 20:43, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Also, the lede doesn't need sources, if the info is sourced in the body. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 17:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We very much need sources. See MOS:CITELEAD GabberFlasted (talk) 20:44, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If it's in the body, you don't. Only would be needed for a controversial claim, for a living person, which doesn't exist in this scenario. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 22:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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Portrait?
Hey, what happened to the official portrait? It was added on January 17 and then was deleted on the same day. I also can’t find a copy anywhere online. I swear I saw it. Am I going crazy? PencilSticks0823 (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Did you read this page, or even just skip to the section immediately prior to yours, or view the article's history? It was removed. JesseRafe (talk) 14:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Request edit on 24 April 2023

 * CONFLICT OF INTEREST*

The edit war that lead to the protection of this page was provoked by user Pennsylvania2. Paid staffers for Josh Shapiro were caught making biased edits in 2019 and they are doing it again. Ironically, this info was added to the page, with citation, and subsequently deleted by the very same paid staffers.

Campaign endorsement op-eds have been listed as source citations. Inconvenient information has been deleted despite proper citations, such as the plea deal for corrupt DA Will Higgins (called a "non-notable prosecution" by Pennsylvania2 - of all the nerve - public corruption?? Higgins went from 62 years in prison to zero, this is notable, if inconvenient to Shapiro's integrity)

Other information that has been suppressed on this page is a carefully sourced and verified link between defendants from the botched prosecution of "Operation Outfoxed" and a significant donor to the Pennsylvania democratic committee. This is relevant information and Pennsylvania2 removed it because it was damaging to his employer.

This is egregious violation of Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest. Here are my proposed edits/reverts to the "Tenure" section under "Attorney General":

On May 7, 2019, the Wikipedia Community flagged edits made to this page, saying they may “rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject” and could have been written in return for payment, both of which violate Wikipedia's terms of use. Edits were made by paid communications staffers from Shapiro's campaign, according to Lancaster Online.

In 2017, Shapiro announced the roundup of a "Million Dollar Heroin Ring" under "Operation Outfoxed" in Luzerne County. One of those arrested was Maura Kathio, previously charged in a major Bath Salts case in 2016. Kathio's Father, Inayat, is a Pakistani Diplomat and significant Pennsylvania Democrat Committee donor who was the Co-Chairman of then Presidential Candidate Joe Biden's Hometown Scranton Fundraiser. All of the charges in Operation Outfoxed were dismissed after allegations that Shapiro had mishandled the sealing of wiretapped recordings.

In 2018, Shapiro offered former Bedford County District Attorney William Higgins a plea deal for corruption charges. Higgins plead guilty to soliciting sexual favors from accused drug dealers in exchange for lenient sentencing recommendations and tipping off dealers about impending search warrants, potentially endangering the lives of officers and informants. Shapiro's agreement for Higgins guaranteed zero jail time. Higgins had initially faced a maximum sentence of 62 years for corruption.

Thank you for your consideration, I hope someone competent sees this..

GunstonHall76 (talk) 05:32, 25 April 2023 (UTC)


 * ❌ Conflict of interest edit requests are for editors with COIs. You do not appear to have a COI, but rather want to revert edits that were apparently made by people with COIs. If you believe your edits are non-controversial, then go ahead and make them; otherwise, post a new topic here and solicit discussion from other editors. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:18, 1 May 2023 (UTC)