Talk:Joyce Frankland Academy

Verification
The Students have the right to express their own opinion of the school, and the public has the right to view these opinions.

Especially when they involve rather dangerous attacks on students.

So why do people keep deleting whats on the page?


 * a) No-one has a "right" to publish anything on Wikipedia
 * b) Especially not when it is blatantly libellous
 * c) And completely and utterly unsourced.
 * Show a source for these claims, something printed and verifiable, and they might end up in the article... otherwise, not a chance. Wikipedia is not here for school pupils to scrawl nasty things on the wall and giggle about how rebellous they're being. Shimgray | talk | 23:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Many students will verify attacks by certain members of staff and other Controversial activities.


 * "Everyone says" is not a verifiable source. Shimgray | talk | 11:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

PEDRICO: I am appauled at the way wikipedia do not let people express their opinions. If the school is in bad conditions to join then this should be published.

Wikipedia is not a place to air opinions. Whatever is in a Wikipedia article has to be verifiable. Haakon 17:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Message to PEDRICO: Good,  be  "appauled". Hope that you are not "In bad conditions"RM87033 16:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:NPOV and WP:OWN. First and foremost, this is an encyclopaedia and it's content must be fact, there is no room for opinion and conjecture. Secondly, one cannot own an article and so to demand that parts are not deleted goes against this principle. Cheers, Jonomacdrones  (talk)  14:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Facts on Eleven Plus
The fact that grammar school students sit the 11+ exam does not need sourcing, as it is a fact- please see Tripartite System, the first paragraph explains it best. Cheers, Jonomacdrones  (talk)  14:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No it does not as described above, but the whole sentence of the history of the schools status does. Although I am fully aware what the 11+ exam is, in addition, if talking about recent history it would still need to be cited, as the 11+ still exists in some counties but some schools set their own entrance exams.  The fact should stay to encourage the verfication of the history overall in the sentence and this may also precipitate more historical information being added.     Ksbrown talk 22:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Official name of the school
The school was renamed to Joyce Frankland Academy, Newport a few years ago. This is also the "common" name that the school refers to itself as on its web site. The term "Newport" in a page title is part of the official name, not a disambiguating term. See this 2014 financial statement and the official logo at the top of the school's web page to see how the school uses its full name. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  15:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Regarding the page name, there is a difference of opinion on the proper page name. Based on a Google search, you can make a case that either the official name, Joyce Frankland Academy, Newport, or the slightly-less-common but shorter form of the name, Joyce Frankland Academy, should be the name of the article page and which should be a redirect.  See User talk:Davidwr/Archives/Archive 23 (as of 20:01, 5 September 2015(UTC)) for a short discussion between myself and another editor on this issue.  I don't see a need to force the issue now, but if, over time, common usage swings strongly towards the official name, the page should be moved.  Likewise, if it swings strongly towards the shorter name, then the name in the infobox and in the opening sentence should be changed.  Right now, it's a compromise:  Short page name and official name in the infobox and opening sentence.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  20:18, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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