Talk:Juan Carlos I/Archive 2

Why "Juan Carlos I"?
Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom wasn't styled "Victoria I", so why is the "I" included in Juan Carlos's style? 86.149.131.137 (talk) 21:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia is the same though. Thanks, SqueakBox 22:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it's a valid question. Interestingly, on the official royal website, he is referred to as Su Majestad el Rey Don Juan Carlos.  Is there a reason we have that "I" in the title in the article?  --Anietor (talk) 22:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * If it's not on the official website, I see no reason why we need the "I". AFAICT, nobody in the line of succession would become Juan Carlos II, anyways.  --Merovingian (T, C) 22:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This is an issue unresolved. In Spain all the people who talks about the king call him Juan Carlos I. But his oficial name is SM el Rey Juan Carlos until it crowns a "Juan Carlos II". --LasMatas01 1:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Lifesaving: two drowning holidaymakers
I regret that I don't at this moment have any details (such as where or when), but I recall that King Juan Carlos dived into the sea (when on holiday on his yacht) to save two women (or girls) who were apparently drowning. I would have though that, at the very least, this would be worth a mention! Hair Commodore (talk) 20:04, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Sobre el apartado de "Other Honours"
Me parece irrelevante por completo que se hayan mencionado estos pequeños reconocimientos. Aconsejo que supriman este apartado, pues resulta ridículo decir que al Rey de España, Archiduque de Austria, Gran Maestre de la Orden de Montesa, Conde de Barcelona, etc. le han concedido en la universidad de winsconsin el grado de doctor honoris causa o que le han hecho miembro de la asociación nacional del rifle. ¿No se dan cuenta? Es como poner una pegatina del coche fantástico en la parte trasera de un Ferrary, junto al caballito rampante plateado. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.221.93.163 (talk) 04:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Last Name
Why is his last name de Borbón y Borbón-Dos Sicilias? Isn't that kind of redundant. Why didn't they just make it de Borbón or de Borbón-Dos Sicilias? Emperor001 (talk) 17:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This kind of surnames is what you get in case of strong inbreeding. Demophon (talk) 17:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * First, if he used one surname it would be "de Borbón", because he is from the main line of the house of Bourbon. Spanish naming convention is to use a name from the father and from the mother. His mother was a member of the House of Bourbon-Naples-Sicily (Two Sicilies) and thus her paternal name was "de Borbón-Dos Sicilias". Thus, Juan Carlos is "de Borbón (father) y Borbón-Dos Sicilias (mother)". His children are "de Borbón (him) y Grecia (Sofia)". This is naming system used almost universally in Spain. Read more here: Spanish naming customs. The duplicity of "Bourbon" in his name is only because his parents were both Bourbons. Charles 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Demophon taht's lind of insulting to say inbreading, he's no more "imbred" than any other royal in Europe, it's not repeating the name, Borbón-Dos Sicilias is from the Italian branch of the family, his mother was not closely related to his father, one family was Borbon, and the other from the Royal family of Sicilly two different families.

Can the King vote?
I have read the constitition before but do not remember if the king and other members of the Royal Family are prohibited from voting. Thanks to anyone who respons. ♦Drachenfyre♦ · Talk 18:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As a spanish citizen, he is perfectly able to vote if he wishes. He is only generally "not expected" to do it. Being the crown a spanish institution which is supposed to represent everyone, spaniards wouldn't feel acceptable to know he is taking part politically.


 * This said, the King has voted in referendums like the the ones for the constitution, joining Nato or joining the European Union. Here is a picture of him voting the European Constitution. Cheers. --MauritiusXXVII  (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 20:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

"Fall" of the Spanish monarchy
The King took a dive descending stairs from a stage a few days ago. Probably not encyclopedia-worthy but it may be for some reason, who knows? Charles 07:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

"Prince of Spain" run-on disaster
The first sentence of the "Prince of Spain" section is just about the worst example of a run-on sentence I've ever seen. It's like somebody accepted a bet that they couldn't fit the entire history of the Spanish Civil War into one sentence. Would somebody with editing rights please fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsquire3 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Marín, not Pontevedra
The town where the king attended his naval studies is Marín, not Pontevedra. Marín is located in the province of Pontevedra but it's a separate town. There is no "Escuela Naval" in Pontevedra.--81.208.106.72 (talk) 08:48, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

bear hunting
An investigation by the Spanish Attorney General and the russian authorities proved that the bear hunting affair was simply not true. So it was erased in the spanish wikipedia.--Jaimevelasco (talk) 13:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

STILES BOX
Image:Escudo de Juan Carlos I de España.svg This image would be in the Infobox Spanish Monarch Styles

(Buho09)12:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Regrouping
i don't understand why there's a sentence alone in the section "Family and private life" which states "In 1956 Juan Carlos may have accidentally killed his brother Alfonso in a shooting incident", while the subject is treated more deeply above. shouldn't it be put all together?--Josepsbd (talk) 12:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

"Communist Volunteers"
The summary of the Spanish civil war referred to the "communist volunteers" that came to Spain to fight on the loyalist side. It's true that many volunteers were communists, but many other political groups were represented. An important example is George Orwell, who actually wrote many scathing attacks on the Communist movement. Hence, "communist volunteers" should be just "volunteers", which is the change I made. --Isaac R (talk) 20:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Speaks fluent catalan?
As a catalan, i have NEVER heard the king speaking "fluent catalan" (so reading a sentence on a paper, with bad pronunciation, not "fluent"). Where is this source? Is there any video/audio who could prove this? I'm serious. It's so easy to say this kind of things lightly without ever proving it.--Josepsbd (talk) 23:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

catalan is not hugely different from spanish!


 * That's like saying French is not hugely different from Spanish, because they share similar grammatical construction and vocabulary at times. The two are different languages, and his fluency should be accurately represented here, regardless of the level of difference between the two. Omgee (talk) 22:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with Omgee - this isn't the place to be debating the differences between languages. His level of fluency in different languages should be mentioned, but only if it's referenced.hippo43 (talk) 02:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Survey
The survey allegedly showing that "28% of the Portuguese wish to become Spanish and to have Juan Carlos I as their King, and follow attentively the Spanish Royal Family's life" is not referenced correctly. The reference doesn't provide the actual survey and only points out that 28% of the Portuguese population want Portugal to merge with Spain. It doesn't say that the Portuguese wish to become Spanish. It doesn't say they want Juan Carlos I to be their king. In fact, Portugal does not have a monarchy and the Portuguese monarchic movement is too small to be considered. It suggests that those 28% want a new country to be formed, one called Iberia.

My personal opinion is that 72% (100%-28%) of the Portuguese don't want to Portugal to merge with Spain, rather than 28% wanting to.--85.139.193.225 (talk) 13:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Lead section
The referenced Diario source describes primarily the opinion of the Portuguese about a federation with Spain, with subsidiary matters such as Madrid or Lisbon, and monarchy or republic. At the very best, the source can be used in an article about Portugal. But note that the source does not give us a link to the actual opinion survey – as we all know, in an opinion survey it all depends on the phrasing of the questions. Altogether, removal of part of the lead section is in order, hereby done separately. -- Iterator12n   Talk  17:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

King of Algarve?
As far as I know, the title of King of Algarve was associated with the Kingdom of Portugal since the Reconquista. Since I see no source confirming this I'm deleting it. User:McKagan

Perhaps could have been tagged before removing it? Anyhow, as mentioned above, see http://www.heraldica.org/topics/royalty/royalstyle.htm hippo43 (talk) 17:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)