Talk:Juan Carlos Rojo

Voted Best Player at 1979 World Youth Cup
Despite the BBC article (of course nothing incorrect has ever been in a newspaper) stating that he was voted best player at the 1979 world youth cup over Maradona, this is obviously untrue. First the FIFA web site and the FIFA technical report of the tournament show that Maradona was voted best player, followed by Romero (Paraguay) and Ramon Diaz (Argentina). Even without resorting to this better evidence, that Juan Carlos Rojo was voted best player is obviously untrue. A striker with zero goals in the tournament and whose team was eliminated in the quater-final (first knockout round) was really voted best player over Maradona, who scored six goals and whose team won the tournament, winning every single game along the way? I know this is wikipedia, but let's use our heads. A single BBC article is a source, the FIFA web site and technical report is a much better source. Dawindler (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * FIFA report confirming Maradona was 'Player of the Tournament' for future reference - however removing the BBC link completely, when it contains other useful information, was wrong. GiantSnowman 18:35, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Who knows what else is wrong with that article given that the claim that Rojo was voted best player of the cup was not only wrong, but actually ridiculous? If it is so important to point out that he was in the Spain's 1979 Youth World Cup squad, then why not link the FIFA technical report instead? Spain's squad is listed on page 112.  If someone were to check the current source that Rojo participated in the 1979 cup, they would see that the article says that he was voted best player, which is obviously untrue and which started this ruckus in the first place.  Dawindler (talk) 19:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
 * According to this September 1987 article "Rojo juega en Segunda para demostrar que aún es apto para el fútbol", he didn't play for 373 days from November 2005 to November 2006 due to injury, after undergoing operations on November 11, 1985 and April 3, 1986, so the BBC article's statement that Rojo helped Barcelona reach the 1986 European Cup final is also misleading, given that he did not play the quarter-finals or the semi-finals (or the final) (according to Porto-Barca 1985-86 second leg match report he didn't play the second leg of the round of 16 either). I wouldn't call the BBC article COMPLETELY valid.  To the contrary. (Interestingly, the 1987 El Pais article starts the myth that he was somehow honored at the 1979 World Youth Cup, although at least this one says "after Maradona," hinting that he was Silver Ball, although it was actually Julio Cesar Romero, and Ramon Diaz was Bronze Ball.  Dawindler (talk) 20:23, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

At least you didn't use his FIFA competition record as evidence that he played a WC qualifier for the senior side at the age of 14! I've spent enough time on this footnote in football history (although Victor Valdez thanked him in his goodbye letter to Barca fans, so he must have been a youth coach at Barca). Have a nice day. Dawindler (talk) 20:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)