Talk:Judgment Day (2009)

Pay Per View Chronology
I tried to change the pay per view chronology for the next event to TBD due to the ongoing dispute about whether the event will be called One Night Stand or Extreme Rules. The schedule on wwe.com says Extreme Rules is the next event. The calendar that was printed out that everyone keeps pointing to as their source says One Night Stand is next. Since there are two contradicting schedules and until it is decided which one is correct, the chronology on this article should be left as TBD.Wwehurricane1 (talk) 05:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The WWE calendar, as they are the promotional group, should always take priority. Incidentally, does it not have Judgement Day listed? If it is listed, it should be listed here as it is on the WWE event calendar.  HAZardousMATT toxic 20:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Funny you should say that since the WWE calander on their website says the next event after Judgment Day will be called Extreme Rules and yet no one will let it be changed to reflect it.Wwehurricane1 (talk) 23:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Because there are contradicting calenders that are reliable sources of information, so we can't speculate on the matter. If you would wait 2 months, then we can change it, if it is confirmed by WWE through ticket information.-- TRU CO   503  23:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

The other calendar you are talking about has two strikes against it. 1. It was produced by WWE Magazine which is not a reliable source for up to date information as the information is written three months before it hits store shelves. 2. The calander was put on sale before the change was made. At that time, the schedule on WWE.com also listed the event as One Night Stand, but has since been changed. It is clear to everyone else except the few people on this site that have taken upon themselves to police the WWE articles that this is a name change for the event. As far as the Judgment Day article goes, I made an edit to the page (going by standards put forth by the people who guard these pages 24 hours a day no less) and changed the next event to TBD. THAT wasn't good enough for you either and it was changed back to One Night Stand. You can't have things both ways. You can't on one hand say that we don't know the name of the next event and should wait until something more official than WWE's own website is released and then on the other hand put One Night Stand on the events lists for the other articles. That is a direct contradiction to your own argument.Wwehurricane1 (talk) 23:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Tell me, where on WWE site does it state that "One Night Stand" is "Extreme Rules" now? Even if we wanted to speculate we couldn't be certain whether it is a new pay-per-view or a name change, which is why its best to wait until WWE updates their ONS website or create a new website for the new name and wait for them to place the name of the PPV under their schedules subpage. TRU CO   503  23:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

When One Night Stand was taken off of the schedule and Extreme Rules was put on it, that clearly signified that One Night Stand was being replaced by Extreme Rules. They don't have to update the website for One Night Stand. The page for Vengeance still exists. Something else I forgot to point out is that the printed calendar everyone keeps using as their more-reliable-than-wwe.com source doesn't have a pay per view listed at all for December. I guess that means there won't be a pay per view in December doesn't it.Wwehurricane1 (talk) 00:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Please go to http://www.jrsbarbq.com/jrs-qa and read about three questions down. One Night Stand is no more. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 00:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * JR says no such thing in his blog, try again.  TJ   Spyke   00:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

He does now. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 23:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No he doesn't, you need to read more carefully. He just says the name will include the word "Extreme", he doesn't specifically says "Extreme Rules" (remember he also said it might be "Night of Extreme").  TJ   Spyke   23:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes he does, you need to read more carefully. My mention of JR's Blog was that he confirmed One Night Stand was no more.  You said he said no such thing (which I disagree with), but today he does clearly state that One Night Stand will not be used this year.  I never said anything about JR specifying the name as Extreme Rules. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 03:10, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

this hasnt been updated lately for 2 months so here it is we waited 2 months and wwe.com does list the next ppv just as extreme rules and no mention of one night stand (however not sure if extreme rules will inherit the ppv history of ONS just like night of champions i believe has vegence history still so that could still happen) however th name change is 95 percent offical cause print sources are out of date and wwe.com is a very realiable source and probaly tickets are on sale or soon for extreme rules it makes sense caling it extreme rules wow now more then one night stand at least as it happens every year (i know cause it was intended for only 1 night but was popular) however a night of extreme would be better title though Golefsgophan (talk) 03:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Poster
Nobody has added a poster yet! If you cant find an official one just make a fake one and put it on the article as soon as possible because it just looks stupid without one! Giga9908 (talk) 17:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No official poster has been released and we will absolutely NOT put a fake one in just because you think that would look better. End of discussion.  TJ   Spyke   18:02, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

wow there is now an offical poster so u happy i know i am thats a sweet poster Golefsgophan (talk) 03:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No matter what you do, where not going to put a FAKE poster in the article, you have just got to wait (like everyone else) until a official poster from a reliable source or WWE's affiliates website comes out.  Save   Us.  Y2J  21:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

NOT A MATCH!
Where I live there was a advertisement prompting that CM PUNK will cash in money in the bank at Judgment Day so take it with a grin of slat Supermike (talk) 13:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Punk has also said in interviews that he is considering cashing it in at Judgment Day (since it is in Rosemont) and that he will let his opponent know ahead of time (like how RVD let Cena know that he would cash it in at ONS). You are right in that we have to wait for it to be announced by WWE (local advertisements often have matches that don't happen and are meant to help sell tickets or advertise the event).  TJ   Spyke   20:10, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I doubt it will be announced in the media. If CM gives notice, it will be on the PPV itself - provided that he comes out of his match with Umaga well enough (in the storyline sense).  !! Just a Punk !!  00:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * errr ummmmm I just realised that I put a spoiler for Smackdown for US users!! Sorry from this little Aussie!  !! Just a Punk !!  00:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

rey mysterio was injured
JR discussed it on his blog, but it might mean his match with jericho might not happen, but that's all a guess for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.158.111 (talk • contribs)
 * If you had read JR's blog (which I guess you didn't), you would know JR said that the match will still happen; that means it was probably a minor injury.  TJ   Spyke   21:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

i'm sorry i missed that part, my fault. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.158.111 (talk) 12:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Aftermath
Would it be pertinent to mention Swagger's protest and assault on Christian last night as a part of the aftermath? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.45.249 (talk) 16:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No. Maybe if it leads to another match between them at Extreme Rules. Otherwise it's not notable.  TJ   Spyke   17:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

How articles should start
I note the claim in an edit-summary that "all articles should start with X IS or X WAS", but I cannot find this prescription in the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Can anyone please point me towards the appropriate "rule"? - 192.190.108.28 (talk) 01:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is one spot: WikiProject Television/Style guidelines.  TJ   Spyke   17:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The two "Lead paragraphs" sections in WikiProject Television/Style guidelines make no mention of "X WAS", and exemplify "X IS" only in examples which lack prescriptive generality. - 192.190.108.28 (talk) 02:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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