Talk:Judiciary of the Maldives

Cleanup and Tone
This is a wonderful contribution by User:Deviathan to en.wiki both in terms of fact and length. But it needs some serious attention so as to position it in a more encyclopedic format. At the present stage it has got an introduction which focuses on judiciary system in a very general perspective. Section two and three has more article-specific information and facts. Since there appears to be POV issues (IMHO) and seemingly factual information they'll have to be NPOV'ed and cited, respectively. Last section, Conclusion, should be removed or changed to something else (again IMHO) as wikipedia (or any other encyclopedia for that matter) should not conclude, rather it should try and present the factually accurate information. Reaching a conclusion might often reflect POV.

Since I am not familiar with the subject and Judiciary is not my area of knowledge there is nothing much I can do to improve this article. People who are capable, please do so. --Oblivious 05:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree that it's a well written (paper), but a wikipedia article with pov issues and no citations. Found it an interesting read.  Came to wikify, but attempted some clean up as well.  I removed the first section about what a judiciary is in general, and tried to remove as many of the "we can conclude" and "I think".  The creator of the article obviously had sources....I really wish they had taken the time to include them, that would go a long way in preventing the article from being deleted. Nihola (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I've left a message on User:Deviathan, urging him to take the time to cite the sources for this article. Unfortunately, he has many delete warnings regarding other articles and files which he hasn't respoded to, so he may no longer be active on Wikipedia.Nihola (talk) 15:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I am currently looking into this article, and will carry out a clean up very soon. Give me a weeks time. Thanks - ℤiαηsh  ✍  19:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've changed the name of the article (as per the deletion discussion). Also if you do have citations, they would also be helpful at Maldives.  I'll keep an eye on the page, and if you would like assistance working on it, just let me know here. Nihola (talk) 18:20, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Plagarism
I attempted to locate some sources online, and check for possible plagarism issues. I found an except from the book "Maldives: Maldivian Law: Human Rights in the Maldives, Maldivian Judges, Maldivian Lawyers, Evolution of the Judiciary in the Maldives", which is, line for line, the first section of this article (which I hads earlier removed due to it's general discussion of Judiciary).

Excerpt: http://maldives.foroneworld.com/2010/12/10/maldives-maldivian-law-human-rights-in-the-maldives-maldivian-judges-maldivian-lawyers-evolution-of-the-judiciary-in-the-maldives/

The Evolution of the Judiciary in the Maldives spans hundreds, even thousands, of years. The Judiciary is one of the most important bodies in the political organization of any state. That is the reason why in each and every state that body is regarded as one of the basic organs of the state. Necessity for the judiciary stems from the fact that man is a social creature and that wherever he is involved, disputes and conflicts would arise, at all levels, the solving of which would demand some sort of a set of laws and regulations. The function of the judicial system, then, is to adjudicate upon conflicts between organs of the state, between the state organs and the people and between individuals. 1 In this quotation, the phrase, adjudicate upon conflicts means solving disputes and conflicts in accordance with the operational laws and regulations. It specifically mentions what conflicts are to be solved by the judiciary. The first type is conflicts between the organs of the state. When the common political organization of modern states is taken into consideration, it can be seen that the organs of the state in almost all countries are three main bodies; namely, the executive, the legislature, and the judiciary. The second type of conflicts is those, which arise between the state and the people. In such a conflict one party is the state or a …

Here is the way the article started (before I removed the first section).

The Evolution of the Judiciary in the Maldives spans hundreds, even thousands, of years.

Judiciary Explained

The Judiciary is one of the most important bodies in the political organization of any state. That is the reason why in each and every state that body is regarded as one of the basic organs of the state. Necessity for the judiciary stems from the fact that man is a social creature and that wherever he is involved, disputes and conflicts would arise, at all levels, the solving of which would demand some sort of a set of laws and regulations. The function of the judicial system, then, is “to adjudicate upon conflicts between organs of the state, between the state organs and the people and between individuals.” 1

In this quotation, the phrase, ‘adjudicate upon conflicts’ means solving disputes and conflicts in accordance with the operational laws and regulations. It specifically mentions what conflicts are to be solved by the judiciary.

The first type is conflicts between the organs of the state. When the common political organization of modern states is taken into consideration, it can be seen that the organs of the state in almost all countries are three main bodies; namely, the executive, the legislature, and the judiciary.

The second type of conflicts is those, which arise between the state and the people. In such a conflict one party is the state or a limb of a state organ and the other party is a member or a group of members of the general public. Disputes between the state and the people may come about in the form of criminal cases and others.

The third type of disputes is said to be those disputes between individuals; i.e. the people. They include all civil conflicts between members of the general public in which one wants the judiciary to step in to secure his right from another etc.

Basically the judicial system in any state would consist of the “courts, judges, and the laws and regulations.”2 These can be considered as the three elements of a judiciary. One may question whether it is necessary to list the courts and judges separately. After all, the courts are no more than the geographical settings where judges carry out their function in the judicial system. However, over the years the courts have become a symbol of a judicial system in all countries of the world, and it is the place where a judiciary comes into operation. Without courts, a typical judicial system may be like a man without a shelter. Just as such a man would not function well; a judicial system would not function properly without the courts. That is the reason why we list courts separately with judges and the laws and regulations. As for the judges, they are people “with power to decide disputes and determine appropriate penalties, etc.”3 Judges solve disputes by applying laws and regulations made by concerned authorities in the state.


 * I'm saddened by this, as it puts into question the rest of the article. Instead of being an essay by the creator of the article, it's most likely simply been lifted, probably from this single book -(http://www.amazon.com/Maldivian-Law-Maldives-Evolution-Judiciary/dp/1157873863). I have no choice but to start a deletion process. Nihola (talk) 15:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * As is turns out, after going through a deletion discussion re: plagarism, the 'book' is simply copied from this article, not the other way around. So, as it stands now, the article simply requires editing and citations.  It can't stay this way, but I'll watch it for awhile, and can help anyone who asks for it. Nihola (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


 * http://maldives.foroneworld.com/2010/12/10/maldives-maldivian-law-human-rights-in-the-maldives-maldivian-judges-maldivian-lawyers-evolution-of-the-judiciary-in-the-maldives/ This link is not active anymore.


 * The Amazon link is a dead link too. WIll appreciate if the links are updated. Maldivesguy (talk) 19:50, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I have updated the courts part but need time to fine tune the part I have added. Maldivesguy (talk) 19:48, 28 February 2012 (UTC)