Talk:Judith Resnik/Archive 1

Deleting Information to mislead FIC students at CMU
Just because you run a class where it is convenient for students not to know where the statue is doesn't mean you can just delete the information from Wikipedia. Why is it even important for it to be hard to find the statue? Why would that matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hillrockpt (talk • contribs) 23:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Rescue Ball Photo
I ran across the Personal Rescue Enclosure photo and recognized Ms. Resnick among the astronauts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Nasarescueball.jpg

The link for source confirms it http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/ABSTRACTS/GPN-2002-000207.html

Would it make sense to add to the caption with a link to this article?

Lent (talk) 02:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)


 * First, you mean Dr. Resnik, not "Ms." Wikimedia is a complimentary but separate project to this one, and such article linking is at least not necessary and might be unhelpful.  A much better question is: can you add content to this article such that adding the image would make the article better?  Why don't you give it a try?Jarhed (talk) 04:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * After a few years, I have finally added the photo with, of course, the correct honorific :-) A nice test of "live editing", and much easier than wiki markup :-) Lent (talk) 04:40, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

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Another Judith Resnik
There is also a noted legal scholar named Judith Resnik; she is presently the Arthur Liman Professor of Law at Yale and used to teach at the University of Southern California. She warrants a page of her own, but I don't know how to set one up given that the astronaut Judith Resnik already has one.

Perhaps you can find someone who can make a disambiguation page to help you start the article. I'd help, but, like you, I dont know how. Sorry. --66.37.59.98 18:16, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Create an article at Juduth Resnik (scholar), and then I'll add a disambig to this page.

Perhaps this page should be renamed Judith Arlene Resnik and the Yale Law professor should be put at Judith Resnik because she does not appear to have a middle name (I checked her official faculty page and publications). Libertylaw 13:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Looking to work on this page, new to wiki but been on here years and years ago! -former scholar under resnik Vmads2993 (talk) 02:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Worked for JRs scholarship program as an undergrad
Really want to write and draft J. resnik the lawyer and american history heroine wiki page. -v.m.b. Vmads2993 (talk) 02:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That's the Yale Professor, correct? https://law.yale.edu/judith-resnik mentioned here on Wikipedia Yale_Law_School, right?
 * Probably a Wikipedia disambiguation page or headnote on this article will be needed. The new article might also fit as Judith Resnick (educator) or Judith Resnick (lawyer).
 * Here's a news search help find notable articles for Prof. Resnik https://news.google.com/search?q=%22judith%20resnik%22%20yale%20-challenger.
 * which finds great quote about a colleague for his obituary: Judith Resnik, a longtime friend and professor at Yale Law School, gave Genego the ultimate endorsement. “The rule in my household was if you ever got arrested, you call Bill Genego,” she said. “He was a mixture of tireless worker, committed and kind. And when the law failed, he would keep pressing for the law to make good on its promises of justice.”
 * This Amici Curae brief in HAMDI v RUMSFELD from 2003 might fit the article, especially as is indexed under papers from future Justice Brett Kavanaugh
 * --Lent (talk) 07:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * --Lent (talk) 07:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * --Lent (talk) 07:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Photos for inclusion
My spelling mistake found some NASA photos for Dr. Resnick that may not have been reviewed!

Apparently some early photos of Dr. Resnik are miscataloged in NASA/NARA archives. Apparently there's a spurious 'C' before the final k in the last name, that is 'Resni c k'. Adding the 'c' picks up some 1978 and 1979 photographs.

This site (no endorsement implied) has a good indexing system for NARA photos. https://nara.getarchive.net/search?&q=Judith%2BResnick

Note that some indexing is contains other errors:
 * Some of the 6/12/1979 One Small Step (Event for 10 Years since Apollo 11) photos do not actually contain Dr. Resnick.
 * This one also incorrectly says Sally Ride in the caption.
 * Note that searching on just the misspelled last name 'Resnick' also picks up a few 2009 photos of Shoshana Resnick, FEMA Infrastructure Branch deputy director.

Not surprisingly, there are a number of pages with at least one misspelling:



Perhaps this miscataloging is understandable in the immediate aftermath the disaster:

--Lent (talk) 07:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

PEAP activation
I've noticed a conflict between this page and that of the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. This page states:

"Following the Challenger disaster, examination of the recovered vehicle cockpit revealed that three of the crew members' Personal Egress Air Packs were activated: those of Resnik, mission specialist Ellison Onizuka and pilot Michael J. Smith. The location of Smith's activation switch on the back of his seat means either Resnik or Onizuka likely activated it for him."

Meanwhile, the Challenger disaster page states:

"At least some of the crew were alive and at least briefly conscious after the breakup, as the Personal Egress Air Packs (PEAPs) were activated for Smith and two unidentified crewmembers, but not for Scobee."

It appears the discrepancy was also noticed at the Challenger disaster page, and consensus was reached (under "Quotes in the "Cause and time of death"") that the source for 'unidentified crewmembers' was more reliable. I'd like to make sure there's consensus here as well before making any changes.

I'm a very new editor so if I have missed anything I should have done, please feel free to correct me! StartGrammarTime (talk) 07:24, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Jewish Label?
Its so offensive that every article about a Jewish person has to specifically state it. So-and-so WHO IS JEWISH... Honestly were not all that special, and unless the religion is a major part of the article, it does not need to be noted. I'm going to remove the reference from this article. We aren't all that special people... Jews are pretty normal people and do not require being pointed out by some anti-semite every second of the day. --24.3.147.203 23:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not just Jews. Many members of minority groups get a label attached to them; to invent a couple of examples: "John Smith was the first French explorer to reach the East Pole"-type thing. Or "Micheal Jones is a prominent African-American Lacrosse player, holding several world records". If they strongly identify with their nationality or religion or men's club, it's sometimes hard to avoid labeling. For instance, education references may show a Jewish semenary or Negro college (do they still use that name?) Please realize that there's another side of the coin: there are some people with these strong affliations that complain if you DON'T mention them. CFLeon 21:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Jews are hardly a minority group. GW_Simulations |User Page 21:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I do not think that word means what you think it means. Kaleja 02:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm a little curious as to if she was the *first* Jewish astronaut. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.25.146 (talk) 23:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Surprisingly, the Soviets claimed that Valery Bykovsky (Vostok 5, 1963) was the first Jewish cosmonaut, so if you mean the first Jew in space, then it seems that she was not, If you mean the first AMERICAN Jew in space, then apparently she was, although I'm sure that you checked geneological charts for previous astronauts, you'd find several with Jewish ancestors. CFLeon (talk) 20:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's fine to remove the Jewish label, but just saying she "attended Hebrew school" is even weirder, no? Does anyone know the name of her Hebrew school? ConDissenter (talk) 01:11, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it was actually part of the name. CFLeon (talk) 20:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's important to note that she was the 1st Jewish-American astronaut and she died on Shuttle Challenger during Pres. Ronald(6 letters) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) the "666 1st Beast"/Antichrist. The 1st Israeli astronaut died on Shuttle Columbia during Pres. George Walker Bush (Jr.) the "2nd Beast"/Antichrist. 2603:3020:BE7:A000:3C11:CF7:F598:30A (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)