Talk:Judy Collins

Current Residence
Should it be mentioned that she currently lives on the Upper West Side of NYC with her husband?

Early Life
Her father was also a singer and was famous in Denver for the "Chuck Collins Calling" radio show. He was also blind from early childhood. see http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07050/763186-129.stm and Judy Collin's first autobiography. 67.170.228.62 06:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC) Les

Song for Martin
Anybody know who the subject is in this song? It seems to be a folk singer who didn't manage to break the scene in the same way that she did Martyn Smith 16:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The Martin of the song is Martin Hoffman, who set the Pete Seeger poem "Deportees (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)" to music. Some ten years or so later, Hoffman committed suicide.
 * PacificBoy 21:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just one thing -- "Deportees" is a Woody Guthrie song.

Times of Your Lives (album title)
Links to the wrong thing. I don't know how to fix it other than just to remove the link, so I left the error for someone else to take care of.Songflower (talk) 04:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Death?
I read in this Wikipedia article that Judy Collins died of multiple myeloma in the morning on May 18, 2008 in London. I have been checking Associated Press releases plus have also been using news search engines and have found nothing indicating that she has passed away. Could there possibly be an error here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsq826 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I am going to delete this section. I called Judy's office in New York just now 13:30 19 May 2008 (EDT) and they said it is not true. I also checked Google News and Google Web pages and the ONLY page reporting this is Wikipedia.
 * Rlhess (talk) 17:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

substance abuse by miss collins
hello,

i'm surprised not to see (seemingly) any mention of substance abuse by subject. she has openly discussed her alcoholism on many occasions on television and in newspaper interviews. a google search of "judy collins alcoholism" will provide links to various articles.

regards. 172.133.112.21 (talk) 09:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Personal Life
Should there be more information on her personal life? I seems like it would not hurt to know her husband, and when they were married, any divorce... how many kids, etc. If you go to other artists, you generally find a whole section for personal life. Mateck (talk) 13:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You're certainly right -- the omission was glaring when compared to other artists (e.g. Robert Allen Zimmerman). It's also glaring that nothing was done in the 4 months since you raised the issue, particularly given how easy it was to fix. The dates of her marriages were given by IMDB, and her second marriage was prominently covered by the NYT. It took 15 minutes to add a discussion of the two marriages, mention Clark Taylor as her only son, and move the bulimia discussion from career to personal life. This is a start -- more should be done here, like her son's birthdate and career/life trajectory, the date of his suicide, etc.
 * JoelWest (talk) 18:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Namesake
Collins was interviewed today (may have been pre-recorded) on "Acoustic Cafe," and sang "Over the Rainbow," stating that the song had special signifigance to her, because she was born around the 1st run of "Oz," and her mother named her after Judy Garland. I wouldn't have a clue how to source this encyclopedically, but it's significant to Judy, so it certainly seems notable to me. Hope someone can work it in. Ragityman (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if this counts as verification, but I was fortunate to be able to attend a concert Ms. Collins gave last night at the Musical Instrument Museum Theater in Phoenix where, in her introduction to "Over the Rainbow" (which she sang as her encore), she stated that her mother had named her after Judy Garland. Tonio (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


 * For those that see her on her current tour, that's what she says.Mwinog2777 (talk) 07:42, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Page numbers
In at least 2 places in the article, there are page numbers given in parens. This not only seems unencyclopedic, it seems to indicate copy-paste, which would be copyright-vio, or at least plagiarism. No? Ragityman (talk) 21:39, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

1971 version
There was a version of "Amazing grace" by Judy with the choirs of the British Army and Navy in Cologne Cathedral in about 1971. It was on youtube.com, but seems to have been taken off now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 16:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * See www.metacafe.com/watch/1465794/amazing_grace_judy_collins_and_the_choir/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 15:29, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Lead Paragraph
I don't often edit, and I don't think this is "verifiable", but I hope this is a proper place for this comment. At the concert Ms. Collins presented last night at the Musical Instrument Museum Theater in Phoenix, at one point during her between-number monologues she denied ever having attended the University of Colorado even though conventional wisdom holds she did. She lived and performed in Boulder, but as she said, "I took a typing class!" Tonio (talk) 16:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


 * As one who does frequently edit, I agree with above! There is no substantive evidence Judy Collins graduated the Un. Colorado. For those who go to her current tour, part of her oral history is that she did NOT attend there, never took any classes there and the whole thing is a giant urban legend.  I propose taking this out of the history unless we can definitively prove with verifiable evidence that she did graduate from there.Mwinog2777 (talk) 19:21, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

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Husband Louis Nelson a "fellow activist" ...?
No mention of that in the ref - or anywhere else that I can find. Boscaswell  talk  16:27, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

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Television Appearances
Judy Collins played a blind character who sang beautifully in 5 episodes of the Christy television series during 1994-95. I'd like to see this mentioned. Janis in ID (talk) 05:36, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

This article does not mention Collins' song "Suzanne"
It seems like a serious omission to me that this article does not mention "Suzanne", a track from Collins' 1966 Album "In My Life". In my opinion (you may disagree), it's one of her signature songs. It's one of the tracks on her 2001 "The Very Best of Judy Collins" greatest hits album (according to the Wikipedia article "The Very Best of Judy Collins").

Source: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-friday-edition-1.3847360/he-was-totally-unlike-anybody-else-judy-collins-remembers-leonard-cohen-1.3847364

After Leonard Cohen's death in 2016, Canadian Broadcasting Company radio show "As It Happens" host Carol Off spoke with Judy Collins about how she will remember Cohen. She spoke of the first time she met Leonard Cohen.

Judy Collins: It was '66. I was working on my sixth album for Elektra Records, it was called In My Life. I really needed a couple more songs and my friend, who grew up with Leonard in Montreal, had always talked about him. She always said, "You know, he's this obscure poet. He's written all these obscure books and poems." She called me this particular day in '66 and she said, "He's just written some songs and he wants to come to New York. He wants to sing them to you." I said, "Well, that sounds wonderful — are they obscure?" And she said, "Oh yes!".

He came to my home and my apartment in New York. He said, "I can't sing and I can't play the guitar. I don't know if this is a song." Then he sang me Suzanne, Dress Rehearsal Rag and The Stranger Song. I recorded them in the next weeks or so. [end quotation]

Speaking about a 1967 benefit concert in which she sang, Judy Collins describes "Suzanne" as a hit for her (even though it apparently was never released as a single and the album never charted) and she quotes Leonard Cohen as crediting her for making him famous

Judy Collins: I said, "You know that Suzanne is now really a hit for me." He said, "I know that because it's put me on the map. Now people know who I am because of your recordings."

Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/flashback-leonard-cohen-and-judy-collins-perform-suzanne-51094/

Andy Greene, a reporter for Rolling Stone magazine, also credits Judy Collins with fueling Leonard Cohen's success as a singer and songwriter.

"Judy Collins released 'Suzanne' in 1966, months before Cohen’s original hit shelves. She turned it into a minor hit, but Cohen’s own version of the song went nowhere, at least initially. Much like Dylan in 1962, Cohen was looking like a Hammond discovery with a great gift for songwriting but little ability to sell actual records."

"It took Joan Baez’s sweet voice to introduce people to the music of Bob Dylan, and this was the same case with Cohen and Collins. College students began checking out Cohen’s own work, and word of this brilliant new singer-songwriter grew, particularly in Europe."

Now it can be argued that Leonard Cohen's legend as a singer and songwriter was not cemented until the 2001 release of the movie "Shrek" with John Cale's version of Cohen's "Hallelujah" (Rufus Wainwright's cover was included in the Shrek soundtrack). But it was Judy Collins' "Suzanne" that first made Leonard Cohen successful, and, as such, Collins' cover of the song deserves at least a paragraph in the Wikipedia article about Collins as a recording artist.

As an aside, let me say that Judy Collins' cover of Stephen Sondheim's "Send In The Clowns" may be her most successful recording, winning Collins her only Grammy award for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance at the 18th Annual Grammy Awards for music released in 1975, but she was already a well established vocalist long before "Send In The Clowns" was released. Even though "In My Life", Collins' 1966 album containing her cover of "Suzanne", peaked at only number 46 on the Billboard Pop Albums charts of 1967, to me, "Suzanne" was Collins' signature piece as of the early 1970s when I was in college. (But I can't cite a suitable source for that claim.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickBlaney (talk • contribs) 05:31, 8 March 2020 (UTC)