Talk:Juice/Archive 1

Extreme POV
"Fruit juice labels may be misleading, with juice companies actively hiding the actual content."

No citation is given for the idea that "juice companies actively hide the actual content" of juice. The level of bias in that statement is staggering.

I am going to remove it. 71.255.175.27 (talk) 01:46, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Negative health effects
I looked at the sources for the link between high consumption of juice and obesity. It seems that the studies that show the link have children/younger persons as subjects, and those that don't show any adverse effect on weight have adults as subjects. To me this seems to be the distinction, that it's a link between young people consuming juice and obesity. There is nothing in the text which clarifies this. DukeTwicep (talk) 01:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Seriously
"I personally think that Orange Juice is the best of all fruit juices." I'm going to remove that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.35.132 (talk) 02:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, this is the best page on wikipedia EVER! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.162.43.27 (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

"It makes tinkle time happy" ? That's gonna have to go too I fear.... Amhantar (talk) 12:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Guy Smiley?
Why does it say that "Guy Smiley" is a method of juice preparation? Am I missing something?

Animal juice?

maybe meat juice is more appropriate
I do not think this reflects a worldwide view.


 * I'm not sure exactly what you mean - the drinking of meat juice is pretty uncommon, but meat is definitely spoken of as having juices. WilyD 19:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Juice as in similar to fruit juice? Or more like blood and liquid fats?  I've never perceived 'meat juice' as any sort of inherent liquid flavor to meat (other than blood and fats).  Hmmm 32.97.110.142 15:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)Piepants

History?
Can someone knowledgable on the subject add a history of juice? I know it's a wierd thing to ask for but I want to know, and it's not in the article. :( Jtrainor 11:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Concentrate juice
I propose the addition of this information which is taken from FDA. If you second this proposition sign you name and feel free to be WP:BOLD and add the information.
 * 100% Pure or 100% Juice
 * Guarantees only 100 percent fruit juice, complete with all its nutrients. If it's not there, it's not all juice.


 * "Cocktail," "Punch," "Drink," "Beverage"
 * Terms which signify diluted juice containing less than 100 percent juice, often with added sweeteners.


 * Fresh Squeezed Juice
 * Squeezed from fresh fruit. It is not pasteurized and is usually located in the produce or dairy section of the grocery store.


 * From Concentrate
 * Water is removed from whole juice to make concentrate; then water is added back to reconstitute to 100 percent juice or to diluted juice such as lemonade.


 * Not From Concentrate
 * Juice that has never been concentrated.


 * Fresh Frozen
 * Freshly squeezed, and packaged and frozen without pasteurization or further processing. It is usually sold in plastic bottles in the frozen food section of the grocery store and is ready to drink after thawing.


 * Juice on Unrefrigerated Shelves
 * Shelf-stable product usually found with canned and bottled juices on unrefrigerated shelves of your store. It is pasteurized juice, or diluted juice, often from concentrate, packaged in sterilized containers.


 * Canned Juice
 * Heated and sealed in cans to provide extended shelf life of more than one year.

--CyclePat 22:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose on the grounds they are specific to one country. These are not international definitions. --Herne nz 08:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Currently in the article are references to the UK's standards, and mentions of trends in many countries besides the US. International does not mean "every country besides the United States." If some subset of these definitions cannot be included, then none of the other references to countries like the UK, Australia, Bulgaria, Norway, or Spain should be there. --207.207.83.18 19:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree that this information should be added, but should there not be some reference to smooth fruit juice and juice with juicy bits?? NMO

overweight kids?
surely juice is a factor responsible for overweight children, not a sole reason. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.108.76.216 (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC).

Juice vs. Nectar
The article states that in New Zealand, "juice" refers to a sweetened fruit drink, while "nectar" refers to pure fruit juice. Well, I live in New Zealand, and quite regularly drink both, and I'm pretty sure this this statement is incorrect. For example, Just Juice Tropical does not have added sugar, while a guava nectar that I often purchase has rather a lot of added sugar. -58.28.152.52 (talk) 09:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC) holy shiznots that would you be saying right now

Cran-bacon Juice
I tried this stuff from Zimbabwe, and it was delicious. I'm adding it to the section with juice blends, hope it's ok. --Kevin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.69.251.208 (talk) 06:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Taste Paradox
I have deleted the section with the heading "Taste Paradox". The information in the section was vague to the point of not making sense, the one source it cited had nothing to do with any sort of "taste paradox," and a google search for '"taste paradox" juice -"major mysteries"' (the last phrase used to weed out copies of this article) returned only 36 results, none of them relevent to the question of whether juice tastes better with familiarity except for one satirical blog. This "taste paradox" is a hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.119.86 (talk) 04:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

No added sugar
"No added sugar" is commonly placed on labels, but the products are often made from "reconstituted concentrates." This can have the same effect as adding sugars to the beverage as the naturally occurring fructose is still unhealthy for the consumer. By common sense, assuming that relatively pure water is used to reconstitute the concentrate back to its original concentration, it's not going to change the sugar content of the original juice. Even if the juice is not from concentrate, there's going to be naturally occurring fructose (and possibly other sugars) in the juice. If there's something else going on that increases the sugar content during reconstitution for some reason, that needs to be explained more clearly. If the issue is merely that "no sugar added" does not mean "sugar-free", then that can be explained without the distraction about concentrates. 63.87.189.17 (talk) 20:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Health benefits argument out of place
This Line doesn't make sense. Most of these juice bars offer freshly made fruit juices, claiming that fresh juice is healthier. The rationale for this claim is that once the fruit has been juiced, its antioxidants start to react with oxygen, which is a free radical, and so lose their health benefit. Did they mean it loses any harmful effects and that is why juice is so good? I am going to remove it until someone can explain and justify it more clearly.--86.46.249.176 (talk) 19:51, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Fruit juice protective against Alzheimer's disease
I think this is definitely worth mentioning in the article. "Fruit and vegetable juices may play an important role in delaying the onset of Alzheimer's disease, particularly among those who are at high risk for the disease". Source: Dai Q, Borenstein AR, Wu Y, Jackson JC, Larson EB. Fruit and vegetable juices and Alzheimer's disease: the Kame Project. Am J Med. 2006 Sep;119(9):751-9. PMID: 16945610. Best regards, --95.49.73.193 (talk) 11:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Someone changed whatever this sentence was previously to this: "jUISEVHfor their perceived health benefits. " I'm going to take the liberty of reverting it back to what it is supposed to be.69.225.84.77 (talk) 06:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Why do fruits and vegetables produce tasty and nutritious juices?
Was it always this way? Did people cultivate the right ones? Some ambitious person should add some science to the article.

For instance, you could talk about how fruit is tasty so animals will eat it and spread the seeds. Is juice an improvement on fruit, or just an alternative? 67.168.11.194 (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Basket sodomy
Currently "Basket sodomy" somehow redirects to this page. Am I missing something? (I was looking for "Basket star" & it was in the predictions). MonoTrouble (talk) 11:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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Meat and Seafood Juice
The article states that "Juice is a liquid that is naturally contained in fruit and vegetables. It can also refer to liquids that are flavored with these or other biological food sources such as meat and seafood. It is commonly consumed as a beverage or used as an ingredient or flavoring in foods."

But only fruit juice is mentioned in the rest of article. How about meat and seafood? &mdash; HenryLi (Talk) 19:39, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

That's a good question. Beef juice is often used as a gravy, and referred to as au juis. I'm sure there are other examples.

Another question is why fruit juice is overwhelmingly more popular that any other kind, not only by itself but as an ingredient or flavor in other foods? For example candy, soda, and cereal are almost always fruit-flavored or fruit-based. Is the implication that fruit is the best tasting food? I know that I wouldn't want to eat shrimp-flavored cereal, but I wonder what the underlying reason is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.20.7.227 (talk) 04:28, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

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