Talk:Julia Alexandratou

Sister?
"Psinakis was one of the judges on the Greek reality show Dream Show, where her sister Artemis was a contestant". The link for Artemis Alexandratou directs to the same page, Julia Alexandratou... Gepsimos (talk) 14:49, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Problem with rumors
This article contains a lot of rumors and random information. Examples:

"Alexandratou had been the bookmakers' favorite, but the judges marked her down, allegedly for making 'funny faces', thus losing the top title to Olympia Hopsonidou. Despite this and despite failed attempts in TV, Julia did win over a huge fan base in Greece."

This is unsourced material.

"Julia was scheduled to take part in the Miss International 2006 beauty pageant but was not allowed to go to this event in Japan and China by Greece’s Antenna TV due to attributed 'budget considerations' even though many journalists believed that she was destined to conquer the first place position."

Again, unsourced.

"Julia Alexandratou’s sister Artemis Alexandratou has confirmed on a Kefalonian web site that her sister (Julia Alexandratou) and Spiros Kagadis did indeed engage each other on the 27th of November 2007 in a private party at the Athens Hilton hotel (without their family’s knowledge or consent) and that they plan to marry one day before Saint Valentine’s day in a Saint Gerasimos Church on their native island of Kefalonia. Julia Alexandratou has received several job project ideas from Hollywood screenplay writer Spiros Kagadis whom press rumors in Greece say she is her long time real manager or fiancée... The job projects include: 1. Representing the U.K. in the Eurovision Music contest 2. Co-writing a proposed sequel to Warner Bros Matrix Trilogy 'Matrix 4' 3. Starring in under discussion 'Nuclear War' film (where George W. Bush has also (unofficially) been asked to perform. The latest news is that Julia has just received an official proposal to star as 'Nausica' in a new projected $180 million film titled 'Odyssey'. Other reported stars in this new Warner Bros 'Odyssey' film are Colin Farrell ('Odysseus'), Charlize Theron ('Penelope'), Angelina Jolie ('Helen') and Tom Hanks (Producer/Director). The movie's screenplay writers are said to be Spiros Kagadis (Captain Corelli's Mandolin) and 300s Michael Gordon."

This is unsourced, self-advertising and ``Co-writing a proposed sequel to Warner Bros Matrix Trilogy "Matrix 4",, cranky.

Always remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a dumping ground for self-advertising. -- Vyx (talk) 19:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

SHAME to all of you!!! You denied publishing the biography of a famous scientist, writer, and strongman,  and you publish the biography  of a pornowoman just  for advertisement!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.7.233.98 (talk) 19:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

1986?
Julia was born on 11/24/1985, not 1986. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Placebo91 (talk • contribs) 04:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Greek article also states 1985. Might be subject to be changed. -andy 2.243.12.114 (talk) 18:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

POV
"Julia Alexandratou is a beautiful and highly sought-after" Beautiful? That's barely NPOV and suggets that it was written by a fanboy. That being said "highly sought-after" isn't much better since there is hardly a criterion to that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.191.17.211 (talk) 15:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I cut the statement. -Phoenixrod (talk) 07:49, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Modeling Agency
The link http://www.placemodels.com/models/view/649?back=j at Place Models is now empty, while the page http://www.placemodels.com/models/beautiful/browse/j does not contain the name Julia A. anymore. 194.42.133.227 (talk) 00:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Rumors
I've removed masses of rumors and unsourced statements. This article still needs more sources. If more are not added I may stub the whole thing down and start again. --TS 05:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sex Tape
There is a sex tape she made for a greek porn production agency, where she appears having sex with a number of different pornstars. There is no showbiz in Greece, this is the best example. Anyhow, she seems pretty in the video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.212.95.221 (talk) 10:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Please update filmography with To_Απαγορευμένο
To_Απαγορευμένο —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gfb1999 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Delete?
I fail to see how a greek starlet has a place in wikipedia when she is merely a recent gossip subject and completely unknown outside of Greece. She wasn't even that well-known between winning a pageant in 2006 and her low-budget porn film two days ago. Furthermore the sources of this article are mostly gossip blogs and a couple of greek tabloids, in greek no less. Most of the article consists of original research and gossip. Can someone please start a deletion vote on this, or even a speedy?77.49.89.109 (talk) 21:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Greek internet media on celebrities relies almost exclusively on gossip sites and blogs, professional or otherwise and are the only citeable sources. US socialites (cf. Kim Kardashian) is of the same notability but more famous (since American) and with more significant media coverage (because of her country's media system). The importance or notability of Julia should not be judged by the country's media system which is lacking compared to the US, but on the information and their consistency.
 * Notice also however that the DVD hype has been referred or mentioned by European press.
 * Lastly, if personalities not well-known outside their country's boundary or with zero influence on US, should not be featured in Wikipedia, please cite the respective rule. pictureuploader (talk) 16:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "Greek internet media on celebrities relies almost exclusively on gossip sites and blogs, professional or otherwise and are the only citeable sources". I am aware of that, but that doesn't make them reliable sources. Wikipedia policy is very specific about blogs NOT being an acceptable source. Most of this article relies on info from blogs; it should be extensively trimmed or deleted entirely until proper sources and references can be provided. Once we consider this, it also fails to meet wikipedia's notability criteria, but this is better left for a proper deletion discussion. Of course people outside the US are worth an entry, but local news do not qualify for establishing notability or citing as a source. Check the respective entries on Reliable Sources, Biographies of Living Persons and Notability.
 * Kim Kardashian is of the same notability? That is 100% nonsense. How do you back that up? Make a quick poll with Kim and Julia and see how many people are aware of each of them. I do believe that Kim Kardashian has a tiny bit more impact in international media (i.e. regardless of home country) and popular culture. Completely inappropriate comparison, if anything it only backs my point about rewriting/deletion.
 * Last time I checked, blogs are not invalid or avoidable sources or against the wikipedia rules; they are tolerated as "better-than-nothing" sources, if a better one can't be found. They are not necessarily unreliable because they are called "blogs"; most of them are eponymous and professional. If a whole media system relies on blogs, then blogs it is. And I didn't compare Julia to Kim in terms of global fame. Kim is in US what Julia is in Greece. The former is American therefore potentially world-wide famous, and uses a different media system; but on local terms, they have similar "roles". 91.132.141.80 (talk) 23:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Blogs are only acceptable if they are online columns by established newspaper journalists: "Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professional journalists or are professionals in the field on which they write and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control". A blog that calls itself "News Blog" or "Celebrity News" or whatever is still a blog. As long as there is no media organisation to back it up, it copnstitutes fans' original research.
 * The above exception aside, blogs ARE against wikipedia rules: "self-published media, whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, Internet forum postings, tweets, etc., are largely not acceptable", "Never use self-published books, zines, websites, forums, blogs or tweets as sources for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject", there are more. Last time you checked - you didn't check at all. Go and actually read the rules please.
 * "on local terms, they have similar roles" - so by your reasoning any local semi-celebrity deserves a wikipedia entry because their social circle considers them famous? That's not how an encyclopedia operates. Kim is famous in outside of US celebrity news, in the mainstream and internationally. Julia is well worth an entry in the greek wikipedia version, i am not doubting that, but until sources can be cited to establish internatinal notability at least to a limited degree, this entry here needs to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.49.194.41 (talk) 08:57, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * What a racist comment was this? Who told you that biographies in wikipedia should concern only people that are famous outside of their countries? Then thousands of articles about notable people inside their countries should be deleted and we would keep only some Americans and 4-5 individuals from each country who are famous worldwide. She is a beauty pageant title holder and singer so an article about her is totally justified. If she was just a girl who took part in a porn video then we wouldn't have an article about her. Indeed, the quality of the article and the sources is quite bad, so an improvement of them is required. - Sthenel (talk) 17:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Racist? Do you see me saying anything about greeks? I am talking about sources buddy, see above.
 * I took the liberty to indent both your comments 91.132.141.80 (talk) 23:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

What is going on here? We ask someone, another one emerges and answer on behalf of the former, the first comes back and then the second user says the same as the other one. I think that this is what we call sock puppetry, so you'd rather stop it now. You confuse even the IPs you use in each answer, and finally what are you trying to do? This article isn't gonna be deleted only because an editor has devoted all his soul to persuade the rest for a deletion. - Sthenel (talk) 09:37, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What is going on here is that unregistered users are allowed to participate in discussions. Is that a problem? 91.132 is a different guy. How come every single time two unregistered users (or even one guy with dynamic IP) participate in a discussion, the sock puppetry accusation is immediately brought up?
 * As for the article, please do look up the rules i quoted, i am trying to bring it to line with wikipedia policy. Sometimes this means improving, some times this means deleting. Both are equally valid. This entry has been marked for multiple issues quite a while ago. Check out the greek version of the article, far more appropriate in tone and information, and in full compliance with wikipedia rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.49.194.41 (talk) 16:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Still no reply? Is something wrong? Can't stand a discussion, don't post unbacked nonsense in talk pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.103.124.199 (talk) 11:21, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Photo requested
I wonder if anyone could upload a photo of her. - Sthenel (talk) 12:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone actually did in the meantime. But WHAT photo is this? Horrible!! I think you guys can do much better than that. -andy 2.243.12.114 (talk) 18:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Eye color
She has brown eyes, she just wears blue and sometimes green contact lenses. Please change it.

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