Talk:Julio César Chávez

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Julio cesar Chaves is the best pound 4 pound ever in boxing history.

Really? Chavez's first six fights, and his eighth, were against 0-0 opponents. He did not face an opponent with a win until his 10th. And I mean ‘a’ win, the 1-5 Roberto Flores. He didn’t fight an opponent with a winning record until #13. But it gets worse. Much worse. 14th fight, Victor Gamez, 1-0. 15th fight, another debut. Again in his next fight. Then a 2-0 fighter, followed by 0-7. 21st fight, Jose Medina 1-2. 23rd, 0-1. 24th, 0-1 again. 25th, 1-6. Then 2-3-2. The next year, he fought six-win Jerry Lewis twice. Followed by the 1-1-0 Othoniel Lopez. In his 41st fight, he faced the 0-0 Armando Flores. Followed that, a 3-3 Ramon Avitia. Four months later, Chavez won the WBC super-feather title. Thankfully, there were no more 0-0 novices. However, in 1989 for his 66th fight, the victim was Ramon Aramburu, 0-1, while his two bouts after Meldrick Taylor had records of 5-3 and 4-3-1.RobotBoy66 (talk) 10:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Why no entry in the International Hall of Fame for Chavez?
I was just browsing thru the international hall of fame list... searching around for familiar names from Mexico and the Philippines (like Flash Elorde and Pancho Villa).

Chavez' record is pretty impressive, and yet he hasnt been inducted to the Hall of Fame. Why?

Chavez not eligible for induction until 2011
The Boxing Hall of Fame only inducts fighters who have been inactive for five years. Chavez's most recent fight was September 17, 2005. Therefore, he will not be eligible until the inductions in 2011 (assuming he doesn't fight again). -JaneFurrows 03:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I've been following Chavez's career for the last twenty years. To my knowledge, he's never lost - or fought, for that matter - a boxer by the name of Richard Cruz.

"El León de Culiacán" nickname is not the best known nickname for Julio.
Julio César Chávez's best known knickname is " El César del Boxeo" (Boxing's Caesar), a clearly reference to Julius Caesar, the Roman Emperor, and to Chavez's royal status in Boxing ( Ancient Rome Emperors were called "Caesar". )Elkidkid 06:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

As an American boxing fan, I'm much more familiar with the nickname "El León de Culiacán" than any of Chavez' other nicknames (except for maybe "JC", but that's like saying Baseball's Pedro Martinez' most well-known nickname is "Pedro"). I also see that "The Lion of Culiacan" [sic] is listed as one of his nicknames, and it's cited, but the cite goes to an empty blog. It should be changed to "El León de Culiacán": a simple google search, in quotations, for "El León de Culiacán" will give only about three pages of results, but all virtually unanimous in their references of Julio César Chávez. Is it his "best known" nickname? No. But it most certainly is popular enough to warrant inclusion on this page. Jimmycolorado (talk) 20:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Chavez vs Camacho was one of the most important fights in Chavez's career
(also, Chavez was a big wimp, he paid many of the opponent to let him win)

Yet, in the article, it is treated as just a preliminary before the fight in The Aztec Stadium.Elkidkid 06:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The record keeping is terrible
His fight arent in order... ther half of them missing and we dont have 1-0 2-0 stats keeping thing. Please someone fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GSP-Rush (talk • contribs) 15:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Didn't he have a nickname "the razor"?
I could have sworn I always saw him with this nickname in american fights?68.115.53.79 (talk) 08:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * uhh, never mind. I just remembered it was Julio "the Cesar" Chavez68.115.53.79 (talk) 17:40, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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Haugen fight
This section claims that Haugen was "wrong on both counts." No evidence is given. How do we know that the fighters that Chavez beat were not Tijuana taxi-drivers and that Haugen's mother couldn't beat them? Also, how do we know that everyone in Azteca Stadium that night was Mexican? 47.137.183.192 (talk) 04:06, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Reworded paragraph and removed the ambiguous statement. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 13:38, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

The longest undefeated streak in boxing history, at 13 years Is wrong
Joe Calzaghe, Harry Simon, Floyd Mayweather, and Ricardo Lopez went undefeated for a longer period of time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3C5:8200:B79:BDB1:B780:15E:FDF6 (talk) 09:46, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Good spot. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:29, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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Dubious Claim
'The Whitaker team, among them Lou Duva, told The Ring that they did not want a fight against Chavez in those days.' This claim seems quite unlikely and lacks any citation. Should be deleted unless citation forthcoming. RobotBoy66 (talk) 11:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)