Talk:Junichiro Koizumi/Archive 1

Faction?
I thought Koizumi was a member of the Mori faction of the LDP? JCB 03:58, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Move page
I think the page should be moved to Junichiro Koizumi, as he is more commonly known in the west under that order of his name. WhisperToMe 20:10, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * I disagree. We should keep all Japanese names consistent or people will be confused. --Jiang 02:17, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * I want the names of the Japanese to be displayed in Kana as well, and in a table of names, which would be neater. It looks worse without it. Furthermore, having a Table of names indicate their names of Kana. Discuss efore reverting. User:Chan Han Xiang


 * The thing to do is to wait for consensus to build at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles) before trying to force this onto articles. It is you who should discuss before reverting because you are the one changing the status quo. --Jiang 07:41, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * May I revert Chan right now, as there isn't any consensus to change anything around? WhisperToMe 05:05, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

NPL ratio
What is an "NPL ratio?" Ideally this should be linked to an appropriate article --Ilyusha

Article clean up

 * OK, someone has to clean up this article ... especially in the popularity section. It's become REAL dirty down there
 * Vandalism's not showing on the edit history, though. I'm confused.  According to Wikipedia it shouldn't even be there.

the article is not at all A-Class i think. it needs updating, I quote "The GDP growth for 2004 is expected to be one of the highest among G7 nations". The article is also weak in structure and need to be restructred and rewritten in a more "encyclopedic style" :)

his wedding cake was in the shape of diet building should be moved to trivia!


 * I fixed the end of Statements on World War II. It ended with "india and". I figure someone erased the second country. I don't knwo what it should have been so I erased and and replaced it with a period. If anyone can finish that paragraph it might be nice.

Birthday
There's conflicting info regarding Koizumi's birthday. At the top of the page, it says he was born in 1946. Just one paragraph later, the article says it was 1942. I don't have time to check it out personally at the moment, but I wanted to point it out before I forgot. Thanks.

--Hex 16 01:06, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

the article is not at all A-Class i think. it needs updating, I quote "The GDP growth for 2004 is expected to be one of the highest among G7 nations". The article is also weak in structure and need to be restructred and rewritten in a more "encyclopedic style" :)

his wedding cake was in the shape of diet building should be moved to trivia!

New Koizumi Cabinet
Can someone edit the table of Template:Koizumi Cabinet? I'm not sure how to do it. I already updated the list under Cabinet of Japan. Whoever does it can work off of that. The info is still not yet available under English-language media.

Photos and US-centrism
IMO there are too many photos of Koizumi meeting with US politicians or visiting US. 84.50.76.63 18:16, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Question
Does mention of the controversy involving Yasukuni Shrine belong on this page? (Even in the form of a quick link to the article on Yasukuni?) I'd like to have some other opinions before I add anything. 64.119.43.102 00:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Of course it does, it's a huge issue in the news for the last two years at least. I added about half a paragraph in the foreign policy section at the end about yasukuni. I also added one sentence in the domestic policy section about him moving his party to a more neoconservative stance with people like Shintaro Ishihara. --154.20.68.142 20:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Past Tense
Gentlemen, I wonder why so much of this article is written in the past tense. He is still alive and in office.--Anglius 20:19, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Merchandise
According to a book I have: "A record label released a CD of his favorite Elvis hits. Also available: mint-flavored Koizumi chewing gum and a coffee-table book with snapshots of Koizumi in a bathrobe, Koizumi reading, Koizumi playing baseball, Koizumi eating noodles."

Anyone know any details? (By the way, this backs up the statement about Koizumi liking Elvis.) Brutannica 00:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

"87th, 88th and 89th Prime Minister of Japan"
This is obviously wrong. He wasn't reincarnated every time he won a general election (if that's what the break-off point is). It makes him sound like Doctor Who or something. But assuming some other prime ministers have been counted as two people too, he's not just the 87th prime minister, and I can't fix this without counting all the prime ministers since the war. EJ1 07:14, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It isn't "wrong"—it's just the Japanese system of counting prime ministers. It's what they use on the Kantei website. - Sekicho 09:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's still wrong even if that's the Japanese way of counting them. Look at what the English words mean! You should trust your understanding of what the English words mean, and your common sense, rather than the Kantei website. EJ1 23:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

"Domestic Policy"
Am I correct in thinking that the few topics under "domestic policy" do not really belong there and should in fact be in sections equal in organizational status to that of the Domestic policy section? Theshibboleth 03:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The kamikaze airfield thing
Can anyone find a source verifying that Junya Koizumi built an airfield for kamikaze pilots? It seems rather odd considering that he was a politician, not a military leader. And it isn't mentioned in the Japanese Wikipedia at all. - Sekicho 05:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Some Weblog have a short mention of the issue. But I could not find any credible source in Japanese. Gegesongs 12:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * During his early year as the prime minister, he visited a former airbase in Kyushu which was also used for kamikaze attacks. On his visit, a memorial dedicated to those who lost their lives taking off from this airbase was dedicated. I'm guessing that somebody run this through a machine translation and believed that he somehow constructed the airfield.--Revth 02:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Personal
Until somebody can cite the Trissanju thing, I'm removing the paragraph that says the Japanese PM is interested in hentai. pkomma 03:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing that this is from an internet propaganda claiming that Koizumi is a woman abuser with a special interest in bondage. This claim was usually accompanied by another propaganda claiming that the reason for going to London was to avoid getting arrested for raping a woman which he settled by paying money. These were popular back in 2004 to 2005 when he went through two elections and quietly disappeared after that. Right now, the "popularity" has shifted to Abe and he is being accused from everything up to and including being another "Kim Jong Il". --Revth 02:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Yasukuni section NPOV
From the grammar of the section, I would assume that the Yasukuni section of this article is written by someone who's grasp of English is not masterly. It needs to be cleaned up for grammar and NPOV. For example:

"When a tedious protest of South Korean President was received, Koizumi was answered by the one phrase "Domestic-oriented speech (国内向けでしょ？)".　As a result, Koizumi came to desert South Korea."

I don't even know what's going on in this sentence. So he received a protest (from whom?) and they answered "Domestic-oriented speech"? Who is answering? What the crap is this talking about?  "According to the Koresn newspaper, In China, the visits have provoked massive anti-Japanese riots that have erupted in violence."

An unnamed (and uncited) "Koresn" newspaper operating in China? Also, if they are riots, doesn't this imply that they are violent?

Stuff like this is continued in the next section:

"In addition, Koizumi's attempts to make Japan play a more active military role abroad have been seen as contradictory to his statement. However, Japan became free from China and South Korea as a result by the diplomacy of Koizumi. And, successors of Koizumi are insisting that the relation be deepened with India and Australia."

No citations. "Japan became free from China and South Korea?" So now Japan was a colony of China and South Korea, and this just ended under his leadership? What the crap!

- Watchreader 14:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Aa!
Aa! Koizumi-san wa kawaii desu! J I P | Talk 09:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)