Talk:Jurassic 5

Structure
I would like to focus on increasing the length of the article, the way it is written and the lead.

Jurassic 5 Power in Numbers ablum
I changed the year of when the album of Power in Numbers was released. Officially it was released October 8, 2002 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bfaginaccount (talk • contribs) 02:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Jurassic 5 EP vs album
I listed the album in the discography rather than the EP, but both could be added. My intention would be to link the albums with track lists and pics, so is it worth having these for both the EP and the album? Gram 16:46, 7 September 2005 (UTC) Gram 13:25, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I've now added both to Jurassic 5 (album)

Caption
Perhaps someone could add a caption to the picture listing the band members names? - Camster342 19:29 29 May 2003 (UTC)

left to right from what i know:... Cut Chemist, Zaakir, Akil, Marc 7, DJ Nu-Mark, Chali2na, ... not adding this to the page because i might be wrong about Zaakir and Akil.

Gram 14:12, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Caption added. - you did have Zaakir and Akil the wrong way round, but otherwise correct.

Changed Dr. Octagon to Kool Keith
Some halfwhit apparently thought Dr. Octagon was a rapper, rather than a project/collaboration between Kool Keith & Dan the Automator. I fixed it. *MAYBE* Dr. Octagon could be considered a rapper if 1 - Kool Keith didn't have a dozen other personalites. 2 - Thier other collaboration had also been released under the same name (which it wasn't)

NPOV
Since there's no discussion of the non-neutral point of view here, and the addition of npov was just because "article is biased towards em", I'm removing npov. I don't think there's a problem with an article being "biased towards em" if they've received mostly positive criticism. Instead of calling this article non-neutral, it might help to add some criticism. For that matter, on rereading the page... there's nothing I can tell that's even positive about them, it's all just bland fact. --Keflavich 02:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * "Positive and inventive lyrics, rather than relying on sex/drug/violence/gang clichés"
 * A lot of their songs are about cliches, such as being slick on the mic, perhaps the most cliched thing to talk about beyond all those others.


 * "note: lyrical inventiveness is the hallmark of Jurassic 5"
 * This is a completely subjective statement.

That's why its pov, those two parts.--Urthogie 09:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe a clean-up tag would be more appropriate than a POV one?--Rockero 17:19, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Article looks pretty clean to me, but those statements are POV.--Urthogie 21:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thatnks for pointing that out, Urthogie. I added a qualification to the first comment and removed the second, which was pretty much useless.  You think it's OK now? --Keflavich 00:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * "Positive and inventive lyrics, rather than relying on sex/drug/violence/gang clichés (though they often rap about their own skills, which is sometimes seen as arrogant and clichéd)"
 * I think this could use some improvement. Even with the parentheses, "inventive" and "sex/drug/violence/gang cliches" are both a bit POV.  Also, one could argue that "sometimes seen as arrogant and cliched" is kind of weasel wordish.  Lastly, although this is a style issue and not a content issue, parentheses don't add much to great prose.  My suggestion is instead of talking about what they dont do (i.e "cliches"), talk about what do they rap about.  Simply say: "They often talk about their life, at times braggadociously, but almost always with a positive touch."  Well...I'm a crappy writer, but at least thats NPOV.  Basically, things become POV whenever you make value judgements, such as the judgement that sex, drugs, and violence, and gangs, are cliches (they may well be, but its not up for an encyclopedia to decide.  more the realm of a music reviewer).--Urthogie 12:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Good comments. You're right that on the first it's a bit weaselish, but I don't really have a good source to cite either way and I was just trying to qualify the statement a bit.  I would trust your writing a bit more - make that edit, it's better than what's there.  However, when you point out that the judgement is up to a music reviewer... I've seen in other articles that statements coming from music reviewers were accepted as encyclopedic/neutral even if the statements they made weren't neutral.  Perhaps a better way to deal with this problem would have been to find and cite sources.  Oh well, I think it's neutral enough now, though in need of improvement. --Keflavich 20:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * "This song features frequent use of alliteration, rhyme, word-plays and assonance; these literary techniques are so pervasive that the song is difficult to decipher in spite of relatively clear diction and medium tempo."
 * This is a great improvement from last time, and is basically NPOV. One thing I'd change is the claim that its difficult to decipher-- to some people it might be, to others not.  A better way of putting it would be, "this can have the effect of making the lyrics difficult to decipher."  Hope this helps, --Urthogie 12:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * "Positive and inventive lyrics, rather than relying on sex/drug/violence/gang clichés (though they often rap about their own skills, which is sometimes seen as arrogant and clichéd)".


 * This definitely needs changing. First, the "clichés" separated by slashes looks pretty ugly. Second, the vast majority of rappers / hip hop groups rap about their own skills. That's a huge part of what rapping is about - self-promotion. To say one band are "sometimes seen as arrogant and clichéd" is frankly moot. Third, "sometimes seen" is a pretty dodgy claim. Fourth, it says "cliché" and "clichéd" in subsequent sentences.
 * I'll give the re-writing a go, but feel free to chip in. Gram 14:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I ended up just scrapping the whole "cliché" reference as it seemed to stand Jurassic 5 alone against gangsta rap, when in fact there are many modern hip hop artists who don't use gangsta clichés, and artists who rap about gangsta-esque issues without necessarily doing so in a clichéd manner. Gram 14:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

But they do sometimes rap about gangs and drugs. They are just very against it. In fact, almost all their songs mention gangs and violence if you actually listen to they lyrics.

Is "maestro" in the opening paragraph NPOV? It seems subjective. 130.209.6.42 (talk) 12:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Origin of the name Jurassic 5
Can anyone say why their name is Jurassic 5? Just wondering. --Soetermans 20:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * This is what I found The Sydney Morning Herald spoke with Jurassic 5 and Charles 'Chali 2na' Stewart explained how the band was named. Chali 2na revealed, "I played the song to my friend's mother and she made a joke: 'You guys think you sound like the Fantastic Five, but you sound more like the Jurassic Five.' And we started laughing but, well, the name stuck."  The Sydney Morning Herald article isn't available online anymore though. Mr.Ecko 14:53, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Slight inconsistency
''In 2006, Jurassic 5 toured without Cut Chemist, who is rumored to have left the group to pursue a solo career. The remaining 5 members have recorded and are set to release their 4th album Feedback on July 25th, 2006.''

Makes it sound as if he has left the group. Yet on Cut Chemist:

''According to the official Jurassic 5 website, Cut Chemist will not be appearing on their forthcoming album (due June of 2006). This is said to be due to Cut Chemist's solo album and he is not out of Jurassic 5, nor does he wish to leave.''

So is he still in the group or not? Tromboneguy0186 05:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * This is now fixed in both articles, with sources. CC has left J5. | Mr. Darcy talk 17:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Floetry reference in Collaborations
1996 - Nu Mark appeared on two tracks with Floetry.

According to the Floetry page, They began their career as songwriters in 1997, which in context implies that this was the very beginning of their career. That page also says Years active: 2002-present.

So how can Nu Mark have appeared on two tracks with them one year before their career started, and six years before their 'debut'? Which page is wrong? Pearce.duncan 05:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I got the Floetry info from Discogs. They have a Floetry 12" single called "4 Ya 3rd Eye" with the release date of 1996. It contains 4 tracks, 2 of which, "Chunk a Da Funk" and "Floetic Skills" feature Nu Mark. I thought it may be possible that the date is wrong on Discogs, and looking at the Floetry page there (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Floetry) all other releases were between 2002 and 2005. However, it is also listed elsewhere, with a more specific UK release date of 23 August, 1996 (including http://www.shopireland.ie/music/detail/B00000B3HR/4-Ya-3rd-Eye-/). Finally, I went to the Floetry website and scanned the forum for "3rd Eye". Therein, it appears that one of the members of Floetry infers that this 12" was from another band called Floetry - "that's someone elses art". So which page is wrong? Well, it seems like neither, but confirmation of the original Floetry is needed, and mentions need to be made! Gram 14:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

"The end of Jurasic 5 " in Collaborations
Under Collaborations the last entry states "The end of Jurasic 5". I am really curious what does this mean? Did the group disband? I know they have shows comming up in the the future. Can someone clarify...

Thanks! Igor at work 16:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Because the group is still active, I changed the first sentence to remove the implication that they no longer exist. I also changed 2007 as the end date of the group to "Present" Diablomarcus 22:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

A few of the memebers are on a Breakestra song, Family Rap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.60.237 (talk) 05:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

DJ Nu-Mark
Why does DJ Nu-Mark redirect to here? He has released solo albums, tours on his own, etc. Shouldn't he have his own page? (Here's his website showing that he has done/does these things: http://www.unclenu.com/home/) Error9900 (talk) 23:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

This Article's Future?
Now that the fifth film is in production, this article is kinda confusing, especially since many readers are starting to search "Jurassic 5" for the new movie article, so how is this gonna work, are we going to have to add a redirect to this article, or rename it to something else so it won't disturb the search settings. We already got a problem like this with Cars 3. Giggett (talk) 22:30, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's fine where it is. The next Jurassic Park film will not be named "Jurassic 5". bd2412  T 14:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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Group creation year
It seems to me that the group was formed in 1993, and not 1991. This date is mentioned on allmusic, as well as on Chali 2na's wiki page.

This can further be verified on a snapshot of Jurassic 5's website, dated november 1999, through the wayback machine:

They first formed in 1993 as the union between Rebels and Rhythm and rhyming crew Unity Committee for the release of a spontaneous, one-off single cleverly titled "Unified Rebelution." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cydanil (talk • contribs) 13:11, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Error
In 2016, they released their first new song in a decade, "Customer Service".

This is clearly wrong despite reference 15. Look at reference 5 - they released a new song "The Way We Do It" during or just after the reunion tour in 2014. It is even listed under Music Videos on the same page. 193.116.79.11 (talk) 08:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)